Speaker 1: 0:01

Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast, mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and light. And now we invite you to enjoy the show and light.

Speaker 2: 0:25

And now we invite you to enjoy the show. When you're not in the heart and you're in the head, you don't have a tendency to learn a lot from things. You just you start to compartmentalize and say, oh, that was good or that was bad.

Speaker 3: 0:38

Or you just thought what you've been told.

Speaker 2: 0:41

Yeah, when really in your heart there's no good or bad, there's just experience.

Speaker 3: 0:44

Yes, yeah, and we have experience because it's there for us to learn from something. So, yeah, when really in your heart there's no good or bad, there's just experience.

Speaker 2: 0:45

Yes, yeah, and we have experience because it's there for us to learn from something. So so, from the heart, you realize that, yeah, there are times where you can feel a bit uncomfortable, but there's always something positive to take away from it, where, if we're in the hymn, we're compartmentalizing things, then we get in the whole game that, oh, I'm having so many days that more bad than good and all this sort of thing, but which isn't just we're um losing the whole concept of the whole idea of life from while we're here yeah, so that uh pulls to my attention.

Speaker 3: 1:18

I didn't realize I was doing this when I was much younger. But, um, I have an undergraduate degree in art and you have to go through this thing they call critiques, which which is you have an art project, everybody does the same art project, they do it in their own way, and then you put your artwork up in front of the group and then we talk about it. Ok, and going through that process, what you learn to do is essentially distance yourself from whatever emotional connection you have to that piece of artwork. So, for me, I don't get my feelings because of that training. I don't get my feelings hurt because somebody doesn't like my piece of artwork. I don't really care. But that doesn't mean that I can't hear what they have to say about it, right, which can always influence me always influenced me and I feel like that might be a skill that you know, if we kind of.

Speaker 3: 2:08

you know, art is a vehicle to be able. Visual arts are a vehicle to have a conversation. So, for example, one of the things I noticed with people who are not trained like that is if I say to them what's going on, what do you see? Even if we're talking about something visual, they actually have resistance to actually saying I see a big red circle in the top, right, right, like that feels weird to them because that's objective description of whatever it is that they see.

Speaker 3: 2:38

And if you take that into another facet of the life, then it feels like oh, now, I'm just. It's kind of like you're restating am I seeing this? Are you saying these words or are you? Is this your behavior, that you're exhibiting that kind of thing? I kind of feel like if, if there was a way to present that skill to everybody, to distance yourself from it and just talk about it objectively you know, if it's, if it's a red circle, how do you feel about that red circle circle? Well, gee, I don't know how I feel it and then ask yourself how you're feeling about the red circle, instead of being attached to. What is this red circle and what does it mean? And all of that.

Speaker 2: 3:19

I really feel like a lot of people can always consume worry about what other people. I really feel like a lot of people are always concerned and worried about what other people are going to say based on what they say. Right. So where you? Just which, I feel like, is a realisation that a lot of our inner conflict is just based on not being who we authentically are right and just trusting that and just which, from the mind, a lot of people would perceive as being selfish. And I believe that everybody deserves you know that person to just be authentic.

Speaker 3: 4:01

Right, because for that peace, that is the piece in the interpersonal experiences, that is the ignition for whatever is it supposed to be for yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2: 4:17

And also to accept people's indifferences, to embrace uniqueness. For me, and this is what I personally feel, on a collective level, humanity, there's too much conformity. Conformity is not unity, right? There's a difference between that. To realize that, as long as that person feels at peace with themselves because they're embraced and trust authentically who they are, that's what we should be happy about, especially in regards to relationships or just in the family. It's this aspect of I'm not happy for that person because they're doing what I wanted them to do. I'm happy for that person because they're doing what I wanted them to do. I'm happy for that that person because they are exploring their infinite potential of who they can become and you see the byproduct of it. You see them smiling, you see them radiant and and you're happy for them for that. You know so. So it's that aspect of um, because I always say, well, my soul always says that our soul is our unique energy signature and that's not taking away that, the oneness that we're all consciousness, we can all connect like that. It's more about, yeah, how we've all got a fingerprint that makes us uniquely who we are, right, and I love that aspect of a fingerprint because when we open our heart right and facilitate what we authentically are, all authenticity is the soul. We then imprint our uniqueness onto reality. That's how it should be right to see you come. Come back into the analogy of what you're mentioning about art. Is that reality? Is this empty canvas that you're here to imprint your uniqueness on, and and not feel afraid or worried or concerned what other people think in regards to doing that.

Speaker 2: 6:13

And I remember personally for me becoming a healer. I worked up at the hospital for 12 years and a majority of my friends online uh, facebook friends were all like people that work at the hospital doctors, nurses and so on and um, but I was, you know, getting more into this energy game, right, and I was working building up clientele while I was still working at the hospital, um, and obviously learned about nutrition, herbalism and supplementation all these sorts of things along the way, and um, and I was getting drawn into areas that were talking about ets, talking about reptilians and talking about this stuff. And I remember a discussion with somebody who was also kind of in that area of their life to branch out into that kind of realm and and and she goes are you, are you a little bit scared or worried what people are going to think of you when you put posts and videos talking about this stuff? And at that point in time I just completely embraced it, you know, and and I was like again, cause I didn't worry, I wasn't concerned about what they thought, I knew this was connected to my authenticity and me becoming more of what I need to be, and it excited me and I wasn't going to douse out that fire and that excitement based on the worry or concern of what people were going to say. And as I did, that things just flourished where the person that was also going to go into that world, who was a little bit reserved about what other people thought nothing really happened for her right Because, again, she didn't embrace the calling of where did the path she needed to walk upon?

Speaker 2: 7:58

Simply because you were worried and concerned of what other people thought and also humanity, I, I think, with the conformity aspect. There's so many people that are. I want to be like them and the key is it's not about wanting to be like someone, it's wanting to be you. You know, and and and trust that you have something that is unique to you and a lot of people quite often come to me in sessions and go chris, I want to know my purpose, I want to know what I should be doing here, and of course, it's always much more simple than what they think or the stories or the mentality aspect that they try and fabricate and try and which is specific, right, and compartmentalize, which means it's harder to reach right, because the way that they've put it together like that and I said you know just simple cues, what excites you, what makes you excited to get out of bed in the morning, what makes you feel passionate about something, you know, all these things that we generally want in life are again discerned by how they feel, and that's a very important realization, because feel is the domain of the heart, you see, yeah, and the domain of, of being in the head, in the mind. So, and a lot of times you're again coming Again, coming back to what I said before, you know that we can stay with what is by feeling into our situation, but when we start to bring thought, mentality into play, it no longer is what is, what simply was presented as it.

Speaker 2: 9:38

It now becomes something else. And how that obviously happens with our health problems, right, what's going on in the body, but also in regards to purpose and intuition, what we were just talking about before is the symptoms that are presented, which are generally what you feel through the body. Right is what is right. That's the greatest discernment diagnostic you could have, that. But when we start to use thought and we start to, oh, I'm going to look on Google, oh, that person had similar symptoms to me and they had that. But this person then said they had that All of a sudden we're creating these variables.

Speaker 2: 10:21

Right, it could be that might be that, maybe that, maybe that, no, that, maybe that which that discernment that you originally got through the body wasn't that, it was simple, and now we've made a complicated kind of version or reaction out of what was felt. So it's like a, a client will go to me and they go oh, um, I, I had to go to the doctor and it's like confession time. And I had to go to the doctor and they did this blood work and they did these scans and they were just going to rattle everything off. And at that point I was like this is numbers, this is compartmentalization, this is thought trying to explain what is felt, and they don't really translate very well, right, how we were talking about before.

Speaker 2: 11:11

Most people misinterpret and misunderstand the body, and that's why, but I just want to bring a realization to the client. I said this. I said, yeah, I get that I've kind of had to interrupt them and I go what was your first discernment, though? Why did you go to the doctor? I go I didn't feel very good and I go, ah, feel Okay, and so that brought a real realization, because they didn't look at it like that.

Speaker 2: 11:41

They were like oh yeah, and I go well, what the body wants you to do, it wants to listen to you, it wants you to sit in your heart and feel into that situation. It wants you to feel into it because then it's like you're at a table and you're supposed to speak the same tongue. You're having a great conversation, that's all that needs to happen the majority of the time. The same tongue, you're having a great conversation. That's all that needs to happen majority of the time. But our reaction is to jump in the head, use thought, use mentality, to then try and understand what is felt, and that's where the confusion, the misinterpretation, the misunderstanding is going on, because then we start to connect what we experienced with something we've looked on the internet or a thought process that says it's this and and, and we're bringing those two together when really this is not part of the original discernment that you had and because we're powerful creators, we can start to create things that we thought it was, but it actually originally wasn't so something.

Speaker 3: 12:47

There's a practice that I do and I teach to other people, that that I hear is coming through here, which is um, you experience something with somebody and I think our minds become so strong that we tend to, like you said, essentially there's a communication there with feeling, but we're just pushing it away and using our mind.

Speaker 3: 13:12

But you have an interaction with someone and it doesn't feel right, you don't like it, it bothers you somehow. Okay, that the pride, the general practice for most humans is to then say, well, they did X, y, z or they, you know something outside of me caused me to feel. Well, that's not true, right, you only feel. You feel that way. That's all you can say. You can't say where it came from or whatever, but you feel that way. But when you turn around and you start looking at it as like, okay, I feel that way, but again, like you're saying, what is the message behind that? What is it that I need to understand? And sometimes the answer isn't, for I found that sometimes the answer isn't even you need to understand it or you need to do something, it's just feel it.

Speaker 2: 13:58

Yeah, just feel it, and then it disappears, right, that's it, that's it A lot of the times disappears.

Speaker 2: 14:07

Right, that's it, that's it. A lot of the times, a lot of the discernments we have is, you know, a fail, safe to say? Get back on track and just get back in the heart and feel it. That's all we want you to do, right and um? And a really important realization for a lot of people, especially when they're discerning their experience, which again goes back to what we're talking about right, using the heart to get to the heart of the matter. Right, to have understanding of the experience or just to feel connected with it. Yeah, let's use that word right, as you said before, don't need to fully know all the ins and outs about it, just to feel connected to it. Right, so we're not feeling uneasy about it, just to feel, feel connected to it. Right, so it's not, we're not feeling uneasy about it.

Speaker 2: 14:46

Um, is that, as a human, we've been conditioned to really understand reality based on what we see and what we think. Right, a thought process, the another expression right, to get our head around what we see. But the science shows that our visible sight is 0.0035% of the electromagnetic spectrum of light, and why I love to throw it out there to people and say it's a scientific fact, because you know people will go oh, you know where's the science behind it. Look it up, it's science, okay. Where's the science behind it? Look it up, it's science, okay. It's coming from it Now and there's a mentality that most people hold on to Everyone does.

Speaker 2: 15:36

We all started from the same point, right as the human, in the way that I'll say. We were built as the human, our curriculum in becoming the human and that was seeing is believing. But if we're seeing 0.0035% representation of everything we look at, how can we say that seeing is believing? So the thing is why I love that is that there's a massive limitation based on what we see. Okay, now we can connect that to, as you mentioned, dimensions right, 1d, 2d, 3d, right and we can't seem to break the ceiling from 3D into the other dimensions based on the sliver of reality. We see right, but we feel it.

Speaker 3: 16:23

Yes.

Speaker 2: 16:24

This is the important aspect, right? So what I like to say is why have we got that belief, that mentality seen as believing, if the science shows that it's not even close to 1% of reality? We see, and I ask the question where did we get that from? What is generally the curriculum of becoming a human built on Mind, thought, mentality, okay, so the mind gave us that, or mentality gave us that, so so that's out of thought and that's what we see.

Speaker 2: 16:55

So, as a human generally, we use our limitation. So what we felt found was what? What doesn't have any limitation and that's what you feel, right. So straight away we'll all of a sudden say, okay, well, that needs to be your primary discernment mode, is what you feel, okay. And then I go you might feel like you are limited in the three-dimensional world and you might say, okay with that, that fact that I see 0.0035, but it doesn't mean you feel everything. That's just in that sliver or just in the 3D. You're feeling everything in all dimensions and you're feeling it in the complete spectrum of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Speaker 2: 17:39

Okay, and including and obviously there are some people that can see energy fields in those, but for a majority of people, based on our limitation of visible sight, we can't see our energy field. Now, this is where the role of the body comes in play, because the role of the body is to let us know the state of the field by how it presents symptoms, how what we feel through the body. We can't see it, but we can feel it right. So the thing is, when the body gives us some symptoms, right, or expressions, really it's giving us an update of the state of the field, because everything's the origin, as I say, is in the unseen, it's based in the field. The effect will be experienced through the body, but the cause is in the field.

Speaker 2: 18:36

So so when the body gives off these symptoms, it's not like we shouldn't just get triggered right and react to the symptom or something's wrong. It should be more about oh, I'm getting symptoms of the body. I should reassess am I in my heart? Have I got my heart open? Am I feeling into my situation? Am I self-aware of where my attention's going? How am I using my intention, which is how I use my energy? That's where we should be going, because that's the baseline, that's the cause aspect of everything. Um, and and see that. Oh, thank you, body right, because it's it's trying to get you back on track. That's really what it's trying to do. So, um, and the thing is over a period of time, right, if you're not connecting into what the body's trying to say, it's going to speak louder and obviously that experience for a lot of people is worsening of the symptom, or more symptoms, and from there perceiving from here, oh, my body's falling apart.

Speaker 3: 19:37

Well, that's something that has been taught to us. I mean, I think that's a belief structure.

Speaker 2: 19:44

It can fairly easily be like oh, like we can all connect into. We all taught that way, weren't we? Yeah?

Speaker 3: 19:50

yeah, but right. But if we drop that part and we open up to, if it's a, the physical experience of what we have going on is a, is a gauge, a measurement of balance or what all this stuff that we've been talking about then we know that that's not necessarily the limitation of the body, Meaning it's like it's got an. I mean, I guess it does have an expiry date. Maybe that's what, right, but it's not that we have to like we're headed down that way. It's more of a. You're a radio signal that's tuned into this. You know, you're now hearing okay, this is what you need to adjust.

Speaker 2: 20:29

You make the adjustment and then you go back to to being more balanced it's simply, you know, like what we're hearing, it's frequency, it's energy that's unseen, it's just that it gets converted into a sound right what we see.

Speaker 2: 20:43

It's all frequency, really. What in the unseen that? That that gets converted into an image based within that 0.0035. So, so you know, everything is really again originating in the unseen. Um, it's just that the way that we're trying to understand what's in the unseen is based on the way that we're trying to understand what's in the unseen is based on the limitations. That's based to the 3d, that's connected to the 0.0035, and so on. Uh, and hence this is why you know a lot of sectors that you know we can give the example of in health that conventional treatment is based on.

Speaker 2: 21:27

Conventional treatment is based on a lack of knowing of the cause and just working on effect. Um, because, as humans, we're generally taught to embrace our physicality, and not much more than that right, which is that sliver of of an understanding of who we are, and, and hence this also breeds the greatest fear of all, and that is to lose your physicality, which is death, because my identity is connected to me being this physical thing. So when I lose it, who am I? What? What happens? Is that the end of everything? So you know, so it's this understanding that, um, I always need to say to my clients you going back to what we said about that cycle, whether it's reincarnation or karma, right, it gives you that extra chance to learn right and to convert it into wisdom. Is that I'll say to them? I said you've got forever if you want it right. If you don't learn it now, you'll get another opportunity. If you don't learn it now, you'll get another opportunity. If you don't learn in this lifetime, you'll get another lifetime. So why so much fear about dying? You know so.

Speaker 2: 22:37

So you know there's a mean, these means out there that talk about. You know, a lot of people are never really living. Yeah, because they're always concerned or worried about the things. That takes that away. Or they believe what they need is in the future, where the future is an illusion because everything's the now, because the future is merely a byproduct of your choices that you make, not in the future, not in the past. In the now. It's a bit like people they're a bit guilty of it in the future, not in the past than the now. Uh, it's a bit like, you know, people, they're a bit guilty of it.

Speaker 2: 23:09

In the spiritual world, right is, is this aspect very much connected to ascension? Right, where there's these prophecies, it's like, oh, it's coming or it's it's 10 years. This is going to happen and I'm like, no, that's an illusion. Life is now and also, if you want that to happen in five years, it's based on the choices you make. Not waiting in five years, but right now. You know so and also you know, when we start to look into people's futures, it's like, well, there's infinite timelines, infinite pathways that people could go on, so, but at the end of the day, it's based on the choice that they make now, which path they're going to walk upon.

Speaker 2: 23:55

So, again, it always comes back to the now. So it's the same with even health problems, like people go. I've had this issue for 10 years and I go. But you should be a representation of the infinite now. So why are you a representation of your past? It means that you're carrying it all right and, as I said before, our purpose of being here is not to carry anything. It's to have experience, converting the wisdom and let it go right yeah that If we can't convert it into wisdom.

Speaker 2: 24:32

It's still not about holding on to it. It's about not gripping your teeth onto something and it gets so full on and you get so fixated about it that it becomes corrosive to you. It's a realization that, okay, even if I don't fully understand what it's all about, the longer I hold on to it, the more opportunity I'm going to be able to learn more experience. So you let it go and and it will come up again to give you another chance which is actually, I think, the foundation of what energy work is.

Speaker 3: 25:02

Yeah, all helping people to do that, yeah yeah, yeah, very much so I have one more question and then I'm gonna I'm gonna end it there and I don't know if we'll include this. I feel like this is sort of off, but I'm not sure. So, interest, this is just an observation, um, especially because I came from the background of doing artwork, okay, and so when you're given you're, you're in a class and they give you a project, and they give you a project, usually they give you some kind of limitation in the sense that you need to use this material, or it has to be this size or whatever. And, um, I didn't realize until actually I think it was after my husband died that I realized that the, the um, what I wanted my life to be. I felt like it was. I felt like I was at ground zero, like, yes, I have stuff that's that I'm dealing with and I will continue to deal with, but essentially I could make any change I wanted to right now and it could be anything that I want.

Speaker 3: 26:02

So then I went into that space and, um, I don't know, I think I did eventually go into the heart space and that was much more effective. It was like, boom, there's the answer, go there, right. But when I was in the head space. It was, oh, I could do this and I could do this. And then I even got excited because that sounds like fun and all this mental stuff, and what I found was that became absolutely overwhelming, like I didn't know what to do or what step to take or where I wanted to live or any of that.

Speaker 3: 26:34

And so what I one of the conclusions I came to is that those limitations were actually helpful in the sense that they stop the mind from going quite so far and it allows you to create something even with a little more freedom.

Speaker 3: 26:56

It's almost like just like dropping, like you were just talking about. Now, when you start to recognize that if you are holding on to a past experience, whether you choose to convert that or not, by holding onto it, you're causing it to stagnate you or stagnate the energy or whatever, and so it's causing you issues, whereas when you start to recognize that, then you just drop it. But dropping it dropping fear or dropping feelings around whatever that is frees up so much energy that you can then put into creation of whatever it is you're creating. That's right. The same thing happens, I would say, when you're limited. You have a limitation for what you can create or what you want to create. If you have the right limitation, it allows the mind to stop a little bit so that you have you're dropping that programming or the thought process that's causing you to be stuck, and then you can expand. So what do you? What do you think about that?

Speaker 2: 27:58

well, the thing is you're like, if you are holding on to something, it means you're feeding that your energy for it to be there, right. So, as you said, you know mentioned about, all of a sudden, when you drop that you've got this huge amount of energy because it's now freed up for you to use it in another direction, right and another for another outcome. Um, also, another great analogy of that is, when we're holding on to things, we create a dam to our own flow. I love that analogy because we're constructing something, we're creating something, but it's not promoting flow, it's promoting a block or congestion obstruction. So a lot of people that come and see me and they go can you look to see if I've got any blocks or there's any blocks they will always be bound or connected to how they're applying their own energy Right.

Speaker 2: 28:55

And recently I've been doing daily reminder, little lives or Facebook things on Facebook, and the last one I talked about was this aspect of being aware of what you allow to influence you, and what I really emphasize is the word allow, because we've got a lot more choices than what we believe okay. So when we are talking about blocks or obstructions and what we mentioned there before, you know, as you said, you know we've been going the mind that says we could do this. It might be that maybe that we could do that, do that. It's, yes, it's. It's creating, it's providing ideas, it's providing concepts, seeds that you can then feed to flourish, become part of your creation. But it's the process that then creates the block or the obstruction, right and, and we get conflicted out of it and confused because it's like is it this one or is it that one, or it might be that one, it might be that one, and also it's not cohesive because it's parts that we can't understand how we connect them together to make the whole okay.

Speaker 2: 30:16

So when I was talking about this aspect of you know, being aware of what you allow to influence you, is very much that it comes back to the now, right? Is that everything that you need to know and understand is right in front of you, right here, right as I'm talking to you right now. That's all that I need to be aware of and know now. That's all that I need to be aware of and know and and also become very aware of information that's coming to you from out here. This way, of course, as channelers, we're getting a lot of information that comes from within out, right? So, um, and and I know there's a lot of people that are actually getting a lot of information coming from within them, but they always allow everything outside of them to supersede that, right, because that's just how we were conditioned to take on information, right?

Speaker 2: 31:16

And so be very aware of what's creeping in, what's gaining your attention, and so be very aware of what's creeping in, what's gaining your attention, because if I've got two people in the room and I'm looking this way and they're looking that way and they're going, wow, look at that, what, what's happening while I'm looking this way, it's not part of my reality, part of their reality. But if I make the choice, I allow the look over there, now it becomes part of my reality. And let's say, now it becomes part of my reality, and let's say, when it becomes part of my reality, and then something happens that then detrimentally affects me. Was it because of that or was it because of me? It was because of me, right? So, which is a very enlightening and very empowering realisation that actually we have a lot of choices, and it's also also, you know, we look into all sorts of things of allowing, um, like I talked about spells, curses, hexes, all these sorts of things. I get people come to me, right, I'm getting spells, uh, from my, my second cousin or or whatever, and then they they work in black magic and all sorts of things and I get it from that level, but it still requires an acknowledgement of your attention or intention to allow that spell to now influence you. Okay, so again, it's key word of allowing these three heart principles that we really work on a lot at, truly holistic, which is that allow surrender and forgive, which are very much connected into your question here and connected to a lot of stuff that we've talked about.

Speaker 2: 32:55

Where holding on to is the opposite to forgiving, because forgiving is our ability to let things go. Okay, where a majority of people up here they see forgiveness as something personal, who am I forgiving? That's what they'll always ask. They'll go who? Because I've got to make it specific who am I forgiving? And it's like no, it's not about that, it's the power of forgiveness, which is, again, just simply what it is is the ability to let something go Now, surrender.

Speaker 2: 33:30

The opposite to that is control, right, which is that aspect of being present or feeling the need to be in control of everything, which means we're looking around the corner before the now right, um, and then allow instead of deny right, which is this aspect that in denial, in denial or in denial, we're just like we're letting things happen to us because we believe life is about. Life happens to us like I've got no choice in this. This happens to me. Where allow is this understanding that actually no, you've got the choice that everything that you influence in your experience, there is a level of an allowing that's connected there, right, and the more you become familiar to that and self-aware of that, then all of a sudden it's like what's my infinite potential and capability?

Speaker 3: 34:28

Right and you start to take more responsibility, so you have more responsibility You're allowing. What are you allowing in and what are you not allowing in.

Speaker 2: 34:36

And you're not getting into that whole thing. Oh, this is bad luck, good bad. Where we compartmentalize things. You stay in the heart and you realize that actually into that whole thing. Oh, this is bad luck, good bad, where we compartmentalize thing. You stay in the heart, you realize that actually it's just experience. I'm learning something from it. You know that's what I'm here to do, so, um, or here to be probably so, so, yeah, so I hope. I hope that kind of answered your question.

Speaker 3: 34:56

There is, I was just curious, but you what you had to say about that.

Speaker 2: 35:00

It was just an observation I made and yeah, for me, the biggest, the biggest visual analogy to that question is is that whole aspect of crowding a dam? You know, you kind of see that beaver that's generally stacks and putting them together and and the more we hold on to things, the more we add sticks to to that. That then, uh, congestion blocks our flow. And if I was to put one word right at the top of the list that's connected to our spiritual journey, but also our ability to be well and vital, the word would be flow, because you know, being in the flow, right, going with the flow, is directly connected to the state the body is in, whether we have flow or congestion. So to you know, when we're in the moment and being present, um, and and also trust in the process, that we'll get the guidance or intuition that is needed for that moment and that right in that time. For me that's a the, the complete definition of what it is to be in the flow, go with the flow. You know, just like, if you're riding away, you know you could fight it or you could just surrender to it and allow it to kind of take you where you need to go. And you know this is where you know a lot of my work. We kind of really define what it is to be, what you authentically are as a soul and what we are with the conditioning that we've taken on as the human, and that a lot of the way that we've kind of been taught, how we're taught, to perceive and process reality needs a drastic change.

Speaker 2: 36:55

Like, for example, you know, I had mentioned about mentality earlier. Like, for example, I had mentioned about mentality earlier, a lot of people, funnily enough, find this really triggering or challenging to them, and it's strange from my perspective because it's so simple. But why I think that challenge is because it's to do with mental health and mental illness. But it's also the brush off is too simple because, again up here, if we've got mental illness or mental health, that's a person that uses mentality to perceive and process reality. This is where the word mental comes from right. So for them to equip anything connected to something simple is very challenging for them oh, so, yeah, so you're saying that's really part of the?

Speaker 2: 37:52

process. That's the problem yeah, yeah, yeah so so.

Speaker 2: 37:56

So what I say and this is what I was mentioning about is you can only have mental health problem or mental illness or just a knowing that there is a sector of mental health when you're an individual that uses mentality. Now, when we drop in the heart, which I like to call knowing right, we don't use mentality right. So so for me, the abundance or epidemic of mental health problems and mental illness because even the numbers that are shown about the epidemic of mental illness a majority of people don't get it clinically diagnosed, so it'd be way more than what the numbers that we're getting is a hint to tell us that the way we perceive and process life doesn't support us. Simple as that. And and and then the simple fact that I just go hey, if we learn to get in the heart and we don't use mentality, you, you can't have mental illness.

Speaker 2: 39:01

There's a lot of people out there that just can't accept that because it's like that sounds too simple. The thing is our resolution, our advancement. Where we need to go is not through complexity. That's the problem. It's through simplicity.

Speaker 3: 39:16

Right, and that addresses what you and I were talking about, actually, before we even started this recorded conversation, which is, um, even this conversation itself. A podcast where two people are talking with language is still entertaining. The mind part yeah, it's still there, yeah, um and so part of your experience, you know right, it's still, it's still there and it's still there, yeah, um, and so it's still part of your experience, you know right, it's still, it's still there and it's valid.

Speaker 3: 39:43

That's why we're doing it. But, um, but, a richer, fuller experience would be more, more, less, or I should say, less in the mind, more in the experience, so feeling the energy of doing something.

Speaker 2: 39:57

Very much so. It's like AI. Yes, again, let's give an example of the complexity of how we perceive AI and the simplicity of it right From here, with my important intelligence in AI. Everyone sees it as a technology, but it's not AT artificial technology. I'm sure it's called artificial intelligence, right. So I always say to people that it's not a technology. As you see it from here, it's an intelligence, and at the moment, what's the greatest fear about AI that most people have is that it's going to take over, because it's going to become sentient, which means to become intelligent on its own.

Speaker 2: 40:44

Now, the thing is it is that already because it's an artificial intelligence, and also because I love to put bright things in the simple, because we always jump the gun too much and we go too far about these things and we lose ourselves and we lose any idea or understanding of it.

Speaker 2: 41:04

Now I like to use an analogy. When we go to a food store right, we go to a grocery store or go and get produce or food we typically innately know that it's healthy and more aligned with the body to get natural ingredients instead of artificial ingredients. So when is anything worked out for us? That's with the word associated to artificial, and it's also this understanding that's an artificial intelligence, not our innate intelligence. And the thing is why I believe we're like a dog flop on our back, showing our belly, you know, to ai is because we haven't even explored the infinite potential capability of what our innate intelligence is, which is what I'd like to call as our soul, which is more of a. It's facilitated through the heart, and why we haven't explored it enough? Because we've been too mind-orientated as a species.

Speaker 3: 42:08

Well, even the visuals affirm that, because if you look at them, even if they make something magnificent and beautiful, what you have to do is look at the little person, or the hands, or the feet, or the. You know one little detail and you're like, you know, that's, that's AI.

Speaker 2: 42:29

And also and also you know, because AI you know seeping in the art world, seeping into the music world, all these areas. And if we look at it, know, and, as you say, you can pick up our cues and I'm sure that will get even more refined. And then people are like I don't even know what's real, what's not, which is yeah they don't tune in right yeah, I think.

Speaker 2: 42:52

I think that's going to challenge. There's going to be a good thing to it and I believe that the more we get into ai, it's gonna make people more conflicted about what's real, what's not, and I think it's gonna come to a point where something has to be done about that, right? Um, of course, they're looking at how ai can make things more convenient, because it really that's what it's bringing forth more convenience, uh, and in regards to advancement. But I feel like there is going to be an ethical aspect that will come up with it. And, of course, when you see, you know they say, oh, we can turn photos into someone moving around like the alive again.

Speaker 2: 43:34

But you look at their eyes yeah, it's not hard and, as I say, coming back to that discernment, right, if we look at, if even they refine everything really well and it looks real, still we only see 0.0035% of reality. When we connect into feel, which connects into everything, there's no soul. Ai is soulless. Okay, so and what does our heart do? What does feel? Do connect into what is real? The expression keep it real, keeping it real is connecting in a discernment that doesn't see a sliver or a part of reality.

Speaker 3: 44:16

It sees everything, it feels everything, and when we get in our heart and we look at that as ai stuff, it doesn't feel right because it's soulless yeah, yeah yeah, so so it's this aspect of, and I feel like the more we go into ai, the more it disconnects us from our authenticity, because the authenticity of ourselves is the soul yeah, I honestly think it's very similar to the um, the concept of the pendulum, back to that, uh, the idea of a spectrum, right, and so the pendulum is swinging towards one area, and I think what will happen is as we start to see, as we that that specific area, which in this case is just AI right, start to swing that way and see it more clearly, we're going to start to see more clearly that it is not, it has no soul and it's not aligned with us, and so then we will naturally start to go back and we'll find, find balance again.

Speaker 2: 45:19

Yeah, and a lot of AI is based on algorithm, and algorithm is based on probability, right, and it's not possibility. And where I connect this with humans, because we can, when we get more mentality driven and more allowed, because mentality allows our past to influence our choice of the now and our choice of the now creates the future. So how that becomes a repeating loop is because our future becomes more of our past, right Now. That's based on probability, because ai is basing the probability of this happening based on what's happened before, right, so it's very much connected into that whole mentality wheel. When we get in our heart, it's not about probability, it's about opening ourselves up to infinite possibility, which for me, is forging new ground, evolving change, right? So so the thing, the thing is always saying my clients are saying, if we want to really break the reason down your head, you want change, that's what you want. There's something about your life that you don't want anymore. You want change. And I say your process and how you perceive and process reality day to day has to change if you want to see the change. If it doesn't, you won't see the change, you won't experience the change, right, because a lot of people, when it comes to, I just want to be healed. I want to. I want to keep living the way I'm living, I'll keep making the same choices I'm making, but I just want to get rid of this problem so I don't have to deal with it.

Speaker 2: 47:10

But the issue with that is they're bought into an idea of fake healing. It's not even real, because that's that's modern medicine stuff. Right, because what medicine has said take a pill which numbs the symptom, which is the expression of the body, oh look, it's gone. No, it's not. That's the effect, it's still the course. So it's, it's again, it's it's, it's understanding. It's this understanding that the most powerful momentum of making that change and healing is that individual themselves. And they have to use a process that supports that change, which is flow, right, flow means change. If there's a lack of flow, it's going to be a lack of change.

Speaker 1: 48:05

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