Speaker 1: 0:01

Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast Mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and light. And now we invite you to enjoy the show.

Speaker 2: 0:30

I am curious to know did you write a book yet?

Speaker 1: 0:36

No, I haven't. I get that question a lot.

Speaker 2: 0:36

And what stopped you from it? Just because my journey has been a very ever-evolving process and I've always felt like, of course, you could write a book and then you do an update version of it, right, as things change. But, uh, I never, I never wanted to put a book out there and feel like I'm bound or stuck to what I write about, the principles in the book For me. I want to ever evolve, I want to ever evolve, I want to ever change. So in that way, the whole dynamic of writing a book just didn't appeal in regards to that. But, uh, but I've got to say that, you know, in the last probably year especially, that things are starting to become. Yes, it's still evolving in many ways, but we're kind of hitting very focal, central principles or knowings, or understandings of what I do and what I provide.

Speaker 2: 1:44

So that is on the horizon in regards to a book, um, and it just didn't feel right, you know, before now, yeah, to look at that, because it just felt like it was a medium, that because I see so many people, not so much in the energy world, but many people in the health world especially nutrition and those sorts of things and diet, like they've written a book and then themselves have had a health crisis because they've stuck to what the book adheres to. It's like it's become a religion, so to speak. Um, so I never wanted to put myself in that situation, right? And then all of a sudden there's a backlash of people going off, but in the book you say this and now you're saying you didn't, you're sick and you're doing this now, you know. So I always felt what I provide is a medium that is ever evolving. So I just felt like the book option was just not an option. But uh, but I'm warming to it.

Speaker 1: 2:52

Let's just say that I know exactly what you're referring to. However, um, there are ways to write that eliminate what you're talking about, and I'm not saying that it's like it's because language, you know, is so 3D, right, for lack of a better description, and it's confining. We're never taught to necessarily write like that, but, given at least given my experience with marketing and so forth, I have just the things I've done, I've I've learned to recognize oh no, don't put that word in there, why? Because that dates it, or because that you know that that makes it feel even more constricted than it really is, and so you don't, you may not, have statements that are as clear, clear, cut per se, like you know it's. It's really very similar to the being working in this, in this field where, um, somebody asked me one time oh, they were, they were talking about how do you, essentially, how do you know if somebody's under hypnosis?

Speaker 2: 4:01

and the way I came to describe it is like it's this really strange combination of vague and very specific at the same time yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's keeping it very open-ended in many ways, right, so people can, um, kind of decipher what they want to take from it themselves, right? So yeah, because when I look at my social media, you know, in regards to the posts, all the things I'm writing up, because it's just not we're not just putting out a meme, right, or something that you know, a body of work that someone else has put across. A lot of it's stuff that you know comes through me. So I get a lot of people that ask me and go hey, I saw your article the other day, or what you're talking about in a session. You know, where do I go? Where's a book that you can recommend I go? There's no book that came through me, so it didn't come from a book.

Speaker 1: 5:02

Oh, they're asking for a reference, asking for a reference, asking for a reference. So my question is when they're asking you for a reference, do you feel like they're asking you for a reference so that they can go entertain their mind with that, or are they asking because they want more of that idea to come through?

Speaker 2: 5:19

I think, but both. But I think definitely with the fact that they want to um, in their own personal time to explore that, to learn more about that, which which is a really good thing. You know, that's something that I encourage with with them. But uh, if you amass all the stuff that are written, you know, over a period of time, that's like, well, there's, there's probably a number of books within that, you know.

Speaker 1: 5:45

But yeah, well, I, what I like about the way that you speak about things, whether it's in written form or not, um, is, I don't know. I just feel like you have this very clear picture of, in a sense, it's more like a structure of kind of the way quote, quote the world, meaning our experience of whatever we are here, right, whatever that is and how it functions, and it's a different perspective. So, and I'm learning that this is essentially just the way that I see things like. The way I perceive them is when you speak. There's an image that's very clear about what things are and what things aren't. And I almost want to say can you paint the painting? So we can, you know, like just so that they see that and perceive it, even just and take it in, you know?

Speaker 2: 6:34

well, I'm very aware that you know I'm talking about. In some ways, it might be the uh alternative of the alternative or the extreme of the extreme, but in the end, my job is not fulfilled unless the person understands, right so, where I'm coming from to everyday life, right, everyday world for people, and use analogies, uh, to simplify and keep it simple, because I feel like in the world that we live in today, thanks to the internet, there's really infinite sources of information. So it's more about how we can apply that information and how we can understand it right so, and how it applies to our everyday life, which means, then, how we can use that right to its maximum potential. So so, yeah, you know infinite sources of information, but I still feel there's a lack of knowing and understanding still out there. So I really like to let my clients know that, okay, I might be reaching into some extremes here, especially if this is new to them, because there's many clients that are like, yeah, I know what you're talking about straight away, but put it in a simple fashion and make it simple and understandable, because the more advanced we're going to become is what I'm finding is to actually make things more simpler, and I feel like a lot of the way that we're conditioned as humans is to perceive that our advancements going to be more complicated stuff.

Speaker 2: 8:28

And for me there's so much complicated stuff out there that people are aware of but they don't know much about it or knowing or an understanding of how it works and because it's kind of presented in a very complex way. It's like an example is DNA and genetics. So anyone knows that, wow, dna and genetics and getting into genes and all sorts of things, it's wow, it's pretty extreme and it's pretty out there. It's like no way I can understand that right. But at Truly Holistic we put it in a really simple format to make it nice and simple, because for me the core aspects of life are simple. It's just that the way we've been conditioned to process what we perceive, we put it in a complicated state. We change something that's simple and what we could say is simply what is. Change something that's simple and what we could say is simply what is, and then, through our understanding of mind, thought, mentality, we tend to translate it into a very complex, uh thing.

Speaker 1: 9:34

You know that that originally wasn't yeah, I agree completely and actually, um, I, whatever, yeah, I'm just gonna call it channeling, because that's what the new hot term is right, when you're connected and you're getting your information. I found it way simpler, like three words maximum or something, and it's you know, and then the other people are just nonstop and you're like, okay, it's still these three words, you know. The answer is still right here, right there at the beginning.

Speaker 2: 10:09

Yeah, I'll let the analogy yeah, and sometimes it'll be just a word someone says and I'm just like and because you know, when you get into channeling and you get more into that knowing right, that intuitive, intuition aspect, you get very aware by, you've got more self-awareness, right.

Speaker 2: 10:28

There's always things coming across you and trying to your words, uh, topics, things you're looking at, and a lot of people just shrug them off because they don't have the awareness right, the self-awareness to. Oh, that's that's interesting, let's explore that more. So it might be just a word, word that someone brings up. You're like oh, that heightens something I'm gonna look at, look into that a little bit more, right. Um, so things like that are really important. I like to actually use an analogy, like, as you mentioned, that it can be just, you know, people might say something in a certain way but, as you say, it's like these three words that just keep coming up, or a common theme. And the analogy I like to use is you know, you can bake so many different cakes, but every cake, the, the main three or four ingredients are all the same, essentially right. So so it's this aspect that you know. People are like oh, this is a amazing that this is this cake. And this is this cake because we compartmentalize all these different things, which then creates the complexity, but really, at the basis, the foundation of all those things, all those variables, are the same, it's the same thing, and a lot of times that baseline is the cause to the effect, right On the effect level, which for people, when they're dealing with a health problem, is the symptoms they're getting, right, which is really the body expressing itself, which I call the effect. Okay, but there's a cause to that effect, right. And and generally, where we're conditioned out of mind, thought, mentality, we chase the effect without, with a lack of knowing or understanding of the cause to that effect, right, and the effect's only there because of a cause, right. So, so a lot of the times, the cause to the effect, the cause, is always going to be a lot more simple than the effect, because the effect comes out as so many different symptoms in so many different parts of the body. Hence they're expressed in different areas of the body and there could be so many variables in play with that and hence the complexity of oh, I've got to deal with that, I've got to deal with that, I've got to deal with that.

Speaker 2: 12:48

It's a bit like in the medical system I was talking to someone about the other day. You know, you get started on one medication and then you start to get deficiencies or side effects out of that one medication. So within six months now you're on five medications, right? So all these different variables all show up when we go to the cause.

Speaker 2: 13:08

It's bring things back into a more singular fashion where we simplify. And the cool thing about that is you're not chasing a fact like you're trimming the branches off a plant. You're going straight to the cause to pull the roots of the plant out. So you know, and and it's always going to be simpler the complexity comes out of chasing the effect right and working on the effect, which really our conventional modern medical system is based on treating the effect, focusing on the effect, and that's why so many people are going oh, I get this all the time, right, I went and saw my doctor and they say I've got this and they're not unsure. Now I went to another expert or specialist and they say this it doesn't fit with the other person because they're all working in that effect level. They don't have the knowing or understanding of the cause to the effect.

Speaker 1: 14:06

Yeah, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like, um, and we're all in bodies, we're all in the same boat with that, yeah, yeah, but I feel like I keep getting the message over and over and even as you're talking, it was coming through. The cause is always on some level, not? Yeah, let's see how do I say this, not living from the heart or acknowledge some part of yeah, very much so.

Speaker 2: 14:47

And also what I would say about that, that really the, the cause or the origin of everything is in the unseen doesn't mean it's not influencing the same. It is right, because a lot of people will kind of say, hey, let's compartmentalize, we've got body over here and we've got spirit over here. No, you don't compartmentalize the two, because they're associated with each other. Right, each part, each component, each faction needs the other. Yes, so, and our spirit, our soul, is the heart. The heart facilitates that.

Speaker 2: 15:32

A lot of work that we've been, that I've been doing of late, probably the last few months especially, is looking into conception, the word conception, right, which is talking about origin and talking about those two factions. Funnily enough, right, the concept, because there's two conceptions for us. There's the conception of the body. Right, which is the conception that essentially everyone knows about. Right, we don't have to go into great depth without that. Right, a man and a woman come together. Right, which you could see is a man is one polarity, a woman the other polarity. And when you bring those polarities together, it creates this little zone in the middle of the overlapping of the two, which we call a state of conception or a state of neutrality. Neutrality means balance, okay, um, actually I'll show you a whether we're doing video. I'm probably just doing audio for the call, but I'm going to show you here. Blair is uh, so this is two rings overlapping.

Speaker 2: 16:36

Yes yeah, so we see this as the geometry or symbol of conception, where each ring and that is one is the polarities right. So two polarities make duality right and dualities. Though when those two polarities are apart from each other they're opposing each other. But when we bring those polarities together it creates that lovely vesica Pisces geometry in the middle, which is neutrality, it's balance. Okay, in fact, in mathematics, if we take that vesica Pisces and we put a line right down the middle, that's called root three Right, and there's actually a geometrician expert in geometry, frank Chester, who created a geometry called the Chesterhedron and he found that after studying that geometry he found that it was the geometry of the heart, the human heart, and he talks about a lot in his work. Root three, which is that space in between, that vesica pisces, which is balance, it's neutrality. This is why, when we get our heart involved as much as possible in our life, it brings and shifts things into balance. Okay, humanity needs more than ever right now, because we're really, when people talk about the matrix or the prison world, it's keeping us in a duality state, which is to remove that balance right. So the heart is the key to kind of unlocking ourselves out of that prison or confinement or limitation, of what duality is all about. And so the cells, the cell cell, you know, the prison cell, is kind of that gamma duality that we in. The key is the heart.

Speaker 2: 18:27

Um, so we've got the conception of the body right and of course, as I said, man and woman come together. Conception of the body we've got to remember that when the formation of that embryo is starting, there's no one driving that, that ship, right, or driving that body. Yet it's just a shell, it's a body right. So there's another conception right, I'll bring spirit, the soul, in. That's then going to drive that vehicle, so to speak. And so that is when we get here, and the way that we get here is through a wormhole, we know, and references the heart. Okay, so it's not until the embryo starts forming the heart. That's when the soul comes in to utilize that body for a lifetime. So, as I say, they both need each other, right.

Speaker 2: 19:20

So the body is kind of a vehicle for us to have an experience here, so we can take what we are as a soul, which is really formless frequencies, and convert it into formed creation. This is where the word in formation comes from, right to translate those frequencies to become form, and form as matter, physical reality. So there's those. So this is something that we've been working a lot on and we've really been working. You know, this is where it goes a bit extreme, obviously.

Speaker 2: 19:55

What I've talked about now is is just an understanding of our origin and also having a greater understanding of purpose, of why we're here, which this is I love, this is what I love to do. But, uh, when we looked at the conception of the body right, because we made I make tensor technology products, pendants and stuff that we make, and the pendant that I'm showing here, blair Blair which is the geometry or symbology of conception, we've made two of these with two different energetics. One of them is based on the conception of the body and one of them based on the conception of getting the heart open, getting the soul and more of your consciousness. Here, and you've got to remember this consciousness is an infinite consciousness, which means consciousness and energy, an energy that knows no boundary or limitation. That's what that means. Okay, so when I say infinite consciousness, my clients are going, you're going to realize that when I open your heart and I facilitate that into an area of your body that needs it right. So let's say I had saying they've got symptoms or a health problem, that I'm saying I'm sending energy that knows no boundary or limitation to there. That's what you originally, authentically, are as a soul consciousness.

Speaker 2: 21:17

So the realization here and the question has to be why does our life as the human become so confined and limited? Maybe that's not all of us, but for the most part that's what people experience and out of that limitation and confinement, that's where all the problems come out of. Funnily enough, right is because we're losing our connection with our authenticity where we came from, our soul, our heart, right, as you were mentioning about and implying before, and we've kind of created mentalities and stories, that kind of limit and lock our way, that we perceive in reality that are always limiting us and confining us. Right, we need to break free from that and the heart is a very important component of that. Now for the conception pendant that is more based on the body.

Speaker 2: 22:20

We've been looking at things like fertility, right, because fertility problems are more advanced than they ever have been which is the ability to create that space or state of neutrality. Right, conception to create a body, right, so to have a child. So, with that product and that pendulum. We're hoping to really dig our teeth into improving fertility but also balancing hormones as well. Right, because when we look at a human, you know when we're talking about the game of duality, or you know the matrix or the prison world. We're talking about two polarities breaking apart from each other. This is me and which is getting stuck in duality and what that's causing then an imbalance in that person's physiology.

Speaker 2: 23:22

Right, when we look at the body and the two areas that we get unbalanced the most is our nervous system and our hormonal system. Right, because when those two things become imbalanced, then we get triggered very easily, like, for example, that's when people go oh my God, I don't feel grounded, I feel overwhelmed. All the time, I feel stressed, which is when we're starting to embody energies that are not our own and they get embedded in our nervous system and they can find a limit on nervous system. Our nervous system can't expand and it wants to. Right, because our original purpose in coming here as a soul consciousness was here to expand. Right, to expand our creation, not limit it.

Speaker 2: 24:07

So, um, and then obviously that with the nervous system, when that gets overwhelmed, it means that we get triggered a lot easier, right, and when we get triggered a lot easily or easier, we all of a sudden lose our self-awareness, right, which means we lose sight of how we're applying ourselves, which means how we apply our energy, um, and, and we get overwhelmed and stressed and all these other things that that we get kind of stuck in a vicious cycle or loop. Same thing with the hormones. The hormones are about balance, and when the hormones lose their balance, then again you lose your self-awareness, you get triggered a lot easier and you also lose that balance in the way that you use your emotions.

Speaker 1: 25:02

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 25:03

Okay. So we've been working on, you know, looking at that conception, geometry and energy, to help bring those sorts of things into balance. We've also met a product, which we call the quantum ring, which is a product that specifically works with the nervous system. Um, and just recently, actually the other day, uh, a lady who purchased that was instant, and I, you know, and I and I I don't like to tell them too much about the product because because then it gets wed, lodged in as a mentality, right, so all of a sudden she's wearing it and then within a couple of days she goes oh, you know, I'm smiling, I just feel happier and I'm calmer, and stuff like that, and I go. Well, there you go.

Speaker 2: 25:50

You know, it's this aspect of now all of a sudden you're relinquishing the energies that you're not. Now, to facilitate the energies that you are and that's how I always say to my clients say, have you got your heart open? You're facilitating more of who you are. But if your heart's closing up, instead of not facilitating who you are, you're now embodying what you're not and the body will tell you. And that's the thing about the body. The body is a form of discernment and that's the thing about the body. The body is a form of discernment, and a lot of the symptoms that you then experience through the body are there to give you a guide of where you're at. Yeah Right, so you can get back on track, right.

Speaker 1: 26:35

Hmm, so I have a question. There was a new. I'm just going to explain what it is and then we can go and see what we do there yeah so it was.

Speaker 1: 26:47

It was it was related to doing some energy work and it was based in the duality, in the sense that the idea is presented just to imagine it this way, so you can understand the concept, which you've already touched on. But but this is I think we're bringing a different idea of it in here. So let's say there's two ends of a spectrum and you know you might see it as a range and they're almost like opposite. But instead of it being like 2D, where it's just flat on a line, it's more like it's if it was represented on 2D would be more better represented as a circle.

Speaker 2: 27:29

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:30

Where on that spectrum are you closer to one point or another? They might be opposite. I kind of feel like, really it's not even at all 2D or even maybe 3D, but it's more like a field in which you might be closer to one representation or another, and the way you might bring, you know, bring something to you that you feel is more aligned with you is being aware of that field. So here's my question If we are aware that there is a field that includes both sides of this spectrum, there is also an acknowledgement that we are both energies, and I feel like when you were talking earlier, there was like what was coming through is when we start, when people have the full awakening, recognition that we are all one.

Speaker 1: 28:35

Yes, one of the things that happens is that impatience usually disintegrates for the most part, except when you're out of balance, right, because you start to see these other people as, again, just on the spectrum, they have a different facet of their experience that they're sharing with you. You get to different. You know it's another part of the spectrum here. So, given that, I'm curious to see what you have to say about experiencing both ends of the spectrum. If we are all one, they're there for a purpose. Like you said, it's a barometer in a sense, to keep you aware of where you are in terms of balance.

Speaker 2: 29:21

Yeah, it comes back, to excuse me, it comes back to the original purpose of why consciousness is here right, to live in it. Experience, through what we call an interface, the body, and that is every consciousness wants to evolve itself, and the way it evolves itself, especially by coming here, is to have experience, right, to create reality that will have experience within it. That is new, right, because we want to have new experiences To convert into wisdom, right. So how, we want to have new experiences to convert into wisdom, right. So how, why people?

Speaker 2: 30:12

Why someone might be over here and another on another end of the spectrum or in a different place is it gives a wide array of different experiences to amplify and accumulate that, the ability to convert that into wisdom. Because there is one step in having experience but there's another step in converting it into wisdom. And what I mean by that? Because when we have a lot of experience but don't convert it into wisdom, this is a big reason why we keep reincarnating here. Okay, so if we want to look at, you know, karma, right, because karma comes into this too, because we're talking about a recycling loop, right, whether it's it's something we're experiencing now and let's say it's presenting to itself, right and let's say we're not self-aware to pick up on it, or to pick up on why we're having that experience, right, which is a big part in then, as we said before earlier about the knowing and the understanding of it.

Speaker 2: 31:20

That's the ability to then convert it into wisdom. Let's say we don't get it. It comes up again, right. It gives you another chance. You have another moment of that and the same day it might seem sometimes, or the next day or the next week, right, which is, it's coming around. It's another cycle giving you an opportunity.

Speaker 2: 31:45

You know a lot of people perceive all these things as, oh, bad luck, or things go after them, or actually a lot of things in life are rooting for you. They're actually trying to help you, even including people that go for health problems. I've got symptoms, I've got aches and pains everywhere. You're misinterpreting the reason why we have a body. The body's trying to let you know and get you back on track. That's really what it's trying to do. It's just we've misunderstood and misinterpreted by the way we've been conditioned to believe what symptoms are. So, going back to that loop, right, the bigger loop is lifetimes, right, a reincarnation, now what? So what is required to then convert those experiences into wisdom is connected to the heart. Funny, funny that, eh, and it's the expression to get to the heart of the matter, because we're experiencing it in a physical sense, right. So that's where the word matter comes from and, of course, it's saying what we need to understand it, which is the heart Now. So the thing about the heart right, the heart wants you to be self-aware, it wants you to be. It doesn't care about five minutes before or five minutes in the future, and that's not because it doesn't care about you. It means it's trying to emphasize that life's the now and that's all. There is. Okay, the only important choice you need to make is the one you have to make now, okay. So it's emphasizing to be self-aware of your choice in the moment. And so your heart, and hence what facilitates you as the soul, which I say, is you without all the conditioning, right, this is the important aspect of why we present that, your authenticity. It connects to what is simply what is okay, which is the very thing that's coming into your awareness, that's trying to forge you forward, right, to evolve, to ascend. This is why you're here, right, as a consciousness, to keep evolving, now, when we are not fully present, right, and, of course, when we're in the heart. That's why we have the experience, but we can connect into the a greater sense of understanding and knowing of what that experience is all about. Hence that allows us to convert that experience into wisdom.

Speaker 2: 34:12

But for a majority of humans and this is why I work so much with the heart and the understanding of that, you know, when we are more mind-orientated, thought-orientated, mentality-orientated especially mentality and we'll talk a little bit more about that um is that we don't stay with what is, we start to change what is into our own little story, right, based on our past experience and and all these sorts of things. So often we lose sight of the very reason or purpose to understand, of why we have that experience, and hence we don't get to the heart of the matter and hence we don't convert that experience into wisdom. And what happens? We start to accumulate experience, and I believe this is a big, big key, or big understanding or knowing of why people get cognitive issues like dementia, alzheimer's and those sorts of things. I see them as like a computer that's run out of ram, hard drive, space, right, ram, yep, right, because I've accumulated some experience that hasn't been converted into wisdom.

Speaker 2: 35:22

Okay, because when we convert into wisdom we don't hold on to it, we let it go. And I'm pretty sure you'd agree with me here. Right, when we, when you're a channeler and you're, you know, and of course you've got to be very present right you create that state to be a channeler, you trust in the moment that the answers that you need for that moment are going to come, which means you're not holding on to it, you're just trusting the process that your guide, your soul, your consciousness is going to facilitate what you need, that's connected to that very moment, what you're experiencing, and you trust that process. And that's not about holding on to anything, that's not about attachment, that's not about dependency. It's about flow and remaining in the flow. And this is also important with flow, with channeling, but it's also important with the body, because the body works when everything's flowing.

Speaker 2: 36:18

When we lose our flow, then we start to see health problems arise. So I always say the path of our spiritual path of ascension to convert experience into wisdom, the reason why we're here as a consciousness is the same pathway to wellness and vitality. It's not different. So, as we said before, right at the start, how people see is the body and the spirit. They're two separate things. No, they're not. They're the same. We bring them together Because the same path for us supports both.

Speaker 1: 36:53

Right, and what I was hearing you saying during that too was I was actually seeing it both as interpersonal with different humans, but you're referring to it as intrapersonal. But it's the same thing as interpersonal, which is you have a group dynamic and this person has a certain personality, or they say whatever they say, and it causes the dynamic of the group to change. The same thing happens within. There's a part of you that steps forward and says or does or thinks or feels or whatever it does, and it helps the unity of the whole thing. But, as you said, it's the flow, because if we start to resist that other person in the group or we resist that part within ourselves, then the whole thing gets out of whack. Right, it gets out, it does it's.

Speaker 2: 37:43

It's also an understand that the people that you are spending a lot of time with, right, or a big part of your experience here, are part of the deal in you converting experience into wisdom, and you are to them, yes, exactly. So they might not be at their path a certain what's the word here? They might not be at a certain point in their path to fully comprehend and understand that compared to, let's say, you are, but it's still there, right, Because the reason we're here is to have experience and convert it into wisdom. There, right, it's, it's because the reason we're here is to have experience and convert into wisdom.

Speaker 2: 38:31

So, even if it's like, even if you know you're in a tricky situation and you're having it was conflict or arguments with your partner or wife or husband or whatever like that, we can easily shift in the head and start thinking, oh, you know, this sucks, and why me? Why are you doing this to me? And all the victimhood aspect of it. Or we can stay in the heart, right, and stay very present, realize, actually, what can I learn from this? What can I learn from their behavior? You know, that makes me understand them better, but also understand myself better in regards to this relationship or this connection so same with our children.

Speaker 1: 39:15

So you know, it's a learning game, that's why you can work on yourself and your relationship gets better, regardless of other people's involved or not.

Speaker 2: 39:29

Yeah, that's it. That's it. And it's also you know the more that if you can stay in the heart, then you're increasing the likelihood of them to drop in their heart and things to just effortlessly resolve, but at the same time you resolve that. But both people come out of it all the better, because I've learned something from it.

Speaker 1: 39:52

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