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Blaire Stanislao @Happy Lyon Center Season 5 Episode 4

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Join Blaire Stanislao & Colleen Lindberg as we discuss healing generational patterns, personal liberation and collective transformation. We explore the significance of language, the importance of understanding our past, and the path toward embracing our light.

• Examining energetic shifts and choice in our lives 
• Healing through exploration of ancestral and past life connections 
• The impact of language on our personal narratives 
• Recognizing personal responsibility in the healing journey 
• Embracing the full impact of your inner strength 
• Encouraging connection to self and others for a holistic healing experience 
• The importance of moving through discomfort for growth 
• Inspiring hope for future generations through conscious choices 

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Speaker 1:

Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast Mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and light. And now we invite you to enjoy the show.

Speaker 2:

Blair and I were just riffing off about what we're seeing and some of the stuff I'm seeing move through the collective right now and we are really in this like energetic shifting of choice and it's coming back into very human aspects of stuff, but it's also integrated with all the frequency of possibility.

Speaker 2:

And when we actually start to move into this and start to really discover that the thoughts, stories, excuses, beliefs even for a lot of us that are playing out in our world right now are no longer serving us most likely never really did, but for some reason we've been playing inside of them are no longer serving the spiritual pathway that we're on, like the things like scarcity and worry and doubt, and how is this going to work? And I don't understand how that's going to. All these things that are very tactile, human mind-driven are literally messing up our energetic fields in creation and connecting deeper to self and in an expansion, and so we were kind of like riffing off about what this is and I'd love to just like throw the baton back at you, blair, to be like what are you feeling when I say that to you?

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, actually I was just telling my daughter, because she just broke up with her first boyfriend, and I was talking about a little bit about my sister too but I weave astrology, astrology in there. Okay, because in astrology, you see, you can see very clearly this person is going to struggle with X Y Z, whatever their chart is Right, and so I was trying to describe to you, okay, so these people who have X Y Z which is us too, right, everybody has this but they have these struggles that are X Y Z this, but they have these struggles that are X Y Z. Then usually what happens is in early childhood we have an experience, so let's say that, well, I'll just use mine. Mine was difficulty with friendships and large groups. Okay, now, this is not necessarily infancy, so I don't. I mean, I don't consciously remember this stuff from infancy about it, but I do remember being in middle school and having a very close friend.

Speaker 1:

All of a sudden she started lying, like incessantly. We weren't actually looking for her to lie or anything, it just kind of popped up and it turned into this big, huge thing, which is not uncommon for middle school, right, right. So I really didn't think anything of it. I just thought, okay, well, this is sort of how she's going to be. But in a 7th or or eighth grader's mind I was like I'm not going to be around, that, I don't like that, you know. And so I quit being friends with her. And it wasn't until, I think I was close to graduating high school, I had heard a story about something that happened, which is, which is essentially the lying went to extremes and so there was a big thing that happened, obviously enough for me to have heard about it. But years and years later after my I mean just literally like probably less than eight years ago I friended her again on Facebook and we chatted a little bit and basically she was experiencing the shift into realizing that she was bipolar and so those were symptoms of it taller, and so those were symptoms of it. So I we would say that, if we're going to use that as an example, I would say I got hurt by a friend right, and so I was. I'm cautious about who I'm friends with. So that plays out, basically, until I decide to heal.

Speaker 1:

Whatever it is Now. That experience itself probably really originated in infancy or childhood Something, somewhere. I thought somebody was a friend of mine, even though I didn't have words for it, and I decided to protect myself, and so probably some of that pattern still continues and I don't think that's any different for anybody. I think we all do this and I think on some level it really is a. It's a survival mechanism, just as much as crying as a baby to get attention or whatever it is that you do. This is just a method of this keeps me safe right now, and then that habit just continues on throughout. And I totally agree.

Speaker 1:

And I mean I've devoted basically my life the last couple of years to trying to figure out. Matter of fact, I think it was two years ago that I didn't tell anybody this, but I just had a little conversation with the universe or whatever, and I was like I really want to understand what it is. What does it mean to say that it's like in the subconscious, or like what does it feel like? It wasn't a very it wasn't a completely human question in the sense that if I just said I want to understand the subconscious, that might be more cohesive. But you can't say that to other humans, so I didn't really say that, so I just put the energy out. And then the next year. I subsequently experienced all of what that meant A lot of right, a lot of what meant and Ooh, that was a rough ride, right, but now I understand it a lot better.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, and also, too, the thing you mentioned about like things are being rooted. We're finding now, and a lot of what's coming through the collective now is it's not just this timeline, it's like past life timelines, and although technically past lives aren't past lives, they're just dimensional lives happening on another timeline, meaning like they're all, we're all simultaneously happening at once. And some people are like I don't understand that we have one soul. Well, your soul is connected to all these things. So if you imagine your soul being in, like, say, 50 different versions of you, then all of that energy is playing out.

Speaker 2:

So if you're feeling this in this life, it may not even be from this life, it could be rooted from that life that now it's coming up to be healed. And when you do the healing work here and go back there, you change the whole entire timeline, which baffles our human brain because it's we play linear, we've been taught linear Like this action gives you this result where spirituality is not linear whatsoever at all, and it is this beautiful expanded portal of possibility. But we were now dealing with. What you just said is like the linear versions of us and cracking them open, for them to find that we're in this flow of this frequency and that we're not just this human, that everything is energy, that everything is connected, that all the parts play out in this mechanism, and it's blowing our minds really.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So here's a thought I have had several instances where I'm working on something and it comes up with past lives and I've I mean, I do regression, so I know all about these things and, frankly, I kind of get a little bit. They get to be a little tiresome. It's not really the messages, it's not the stuff that comes through that's tiresome, it's the human interpretation of it. That really is tiresome to me because it's like, okay, you first off, you're using the word past Okay, I know that's not right and then, second off, sometimes people will get little like hung up on.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I was just saying like, for example, I did a regression for a friend of mine and she was somebody who directed human sacrifices in your Egypt or something. I mean like this is a very dramatic story and she's a very emotional being, and so her response was their emotional response and it was a dramatic story. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, and she didn't necessarily, I don't think, get hung up on that, but I could see why people would get hung up on. Oh, my god, I did this thing and you know, I saw these images and I mean it's dramatic, it's rough, it's like you're you're watching a movie and you're completely engrossed in it and, oh my gosh, this is really what it is. Well, it is, but it's also not right. And actually, in that most recent masterclass that I was just mentioning, we were touching on the fact it was actually that same person and another one who were kind of talking about how they were going through the process of, essentially was healing Okay. And yeah, what I find really amazing and I think this is actually really important to notice is that there's something inside of us and I think this is the driving force there's something inside of us that knows that what the world tells us about ourselves is not right, meaning, you know, some of it might be right, but there's parts of it that aren't right, which is what drives us to try and solve or fix or change those things. And so they were doing ancestral healing't right, which is what drives us to try and solve or fix or change those curious yep yeah, and so they were doing ancestral healing essentially. One of them just spontaneously did that, and I've been in a class where she actually learned that too, so I know, and I've done it too, so I know what it's like.

Speaker 1:

So she's describing this process of ancestral healing, and I would beg to to argue that when you do that ancestral healing, what you do is you come in, you're experiencing what's happening, you're recognizing the experience that caused you to think or feel a certain way, and then you go into that scene energetically and you essentially console yourself, right, like you give yourself hope, you tell yourself what it is you need to hear, because you know that where you are now right, what you need to hear back then. So I would beg to argue that, in fact, that is the driving force behind us wanting to actually make those changes. So, essentially, we are the reason that we know that something's wrong. Yeah, that we could. You, the easiest thing to do is just connect with that version of ourselves, no matter what timeline is on.

Speaker 1:

And then I want to say one more thing. The way you were describing it reminds me of why I have such hope for the youth of today. Now, being a teacher as I was for almost, you know, a little over nine years, um, I, I'm I'm of that in between generations, so I'm not a baby boomer and I'm not the millennials, and and so I had this way of easily understanding both of them, right, um? And if you listen to older generations and they complain about the younger generations, definitely more than one apart. It's like you're hearing the old generations stuck in their patterns what we're talking about here and the younger generation exploring new ways.

Speaker 1:

The thing that to me is most promising make the changes in the world that are going to help solve whatever the issues are that we need to fix. It's not going to fix it in one little thing like the two generations before them, right? Fix it in one little thing like the two generations before them, right? It's going to do exactly what you said, like I imagined. You know one, let's say one cube rolling over to a new color being shown and then it's like a domino effect, all these other things just change.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it shifts, it shifts everything. And this is the thing like. So I got trained in past life regression and then morphed, the protocols or whatever the things changed it in the vibrational alignment I'm meant to serve and teach it in and and obviously that's just kind of I'm a rebel. So that's what I do anyways, in the space of it all and I call it actually exploration now, cause I'm like I don't like that word, you know like I'm like past life exploration, but in all the work I do, we drop in and then we do something in that past life to move whatever we have to do.

Speaker 2:

And it's cool to watch and feel when you shift the actual energetic cords that are the impeding factor. And it's all the versions of us. It's not like it's just, like you said, we think about it outside of ourselves, but it's not. It's all the connectedness in here. And then it's that energy now moving into the world and gets embedded into the kids and into the work we're doing and into the spaces and the earth experience.

Speaker 2:

So the next person that comes to that earth experience, where you've embedded that energy, now gets that flux of choice to take that on, consciously or unconsciously, depending on where they're at in their awakening process. And this is the movement. You know, when they call it the ascension, I'm kind of like, eh, like there is an like we're, we're descending inside of ourselves to ascend within our own light, like that's really what's transpiring and through that is then the collective is moving through, because the people are doing the work. It's not an outward journey, it's all an inward journey, and every single movement of light we take creates a ripple effect of light somewhere. It's the calibration of it all, right.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, yeah. So what I want to? I'm always trying to bring it back to like tangible. How does somebody who listens to this really understand what to do? So what is your advice, or what do you? What is your regular practice of? How do you figure out what to work on? Cause there's, so there can be so much. Oh my God. Okay, so share this. What, what that is.

Speaker 2:

I've been doing this work for 16 years and I'm still in it. And one of my clients said to me once when are we going to be done? And I was like when you die? No-transcript, like I don't know my story. I'm like, yeah, you do, cause that's your story, right there. It's like you do know. You do know.

Speaker 2:

You say it to yourself every day. You wake up in the morning and you're like I don't have enough money. I don't like, how am I going to pay the bills? How am I going to move this through? Or you're like I can't do that because I don't have the skills, or I don't know how. I would like you tell yourself this every day. And if you start to actually look at the way you talk to yourself and the way you're showing up in the it right away. Now most of us are avoiding it and hiding from it because we A don't want to do the work. B we don't want to take responsibility, because then that means that opens up a whole other thing. Like well, if I'm responsible for this, am I responsible for everything?

Speaker 2:

It's like yeah you are, you know, but once you actually swallow the pill and you actually like, I'm responsible for all of this, that's where I would normally swear Blair you know, I'm responsible for all of this. Okay, all right, if I'm responsible for all of this, then I'm also responsible, and I always say this. I'm like if you are your limitation, you are also your liberation.

Speaker 1:

It's a lot of security, like you are.

Speaker 2:

So if you can do that, you can also do this. But you just now need to start choosing and start to do the work and start to look at it and look for the pain and look for what you're holding onto. And you know, there's a story you tell all your friends and sometimes you keep repeating it over and over. Remember that time that and it's like it doesn't serve you. It's not serving you anymore.

Speaker 1:

You know, like yeah, yeah, it's funny, so we'll just bring this up Cause I don't know if the listeners know this, but I did fall about three weeks ago and broke both of my elbows and that's certainly been a journey I've been very stuck like in terms of being able to. I can't do anything for myself. If I wasn't living in a house where people were helping me, I don't know what I would do. But it's interesting because even just this past weekend, I slowly have been pulling back. So, like we had this planned and I was kind of looking at my schedule and I was like I'm not going to reschedule it, I can do it, you know, like I can handle this one and I'm going to do it, but there were other ones that I was like, oh, I need to cancel it, I can't do that, and I. So I've been slowly pulling back. And this is just this past weekend.

Speaker 1:

I actually created a part on my website that basically acknowledges that we need to take a break, which I mean, everybody knows you got to take a break sometimes, right? Like you just need to rejuvenate, you need to go within yourself and stop going outward for work or whatever. That's why we have vacations, and I left a message and in my business group and said that I was doing that so I wasn't typing. This is good because I'm not typing, I'm not using my hands. But in the message I was then asked later, you know, be careful of the language you use because I did say break in there and I was like, oh you know, I never even thought about that. Yeah, I did say break, and then I was. So I immediately went to go change the website and as I read the website, there were many other words that were describing this process. But break was in there one time and so I deleted that particular part.

Speaker 1:

But it's actually really important the language that we use, because that does pull that up and what you're talking about there is I know it's correct. I know it's correct. I think for me when trying to work with other people or maybe it's not really that, I think it's more like marketing I look at marketing and I know what marketing is supposed to be and then I'm like, no, you got to dig deep, you got to get the mud up. Like that's how it works, that's what you do and that's like the greatest thing you can do, right, but it's kind of hard to sell mud right In the way that the past experience has been for me for marketing. So I think there's a little struggle there for me in terms of how do you advertise about them, but in reality that is what it is. That really is what it is.

Speaker 2:

So marketing is all it is. That really is what it is. So marketing is all the things. So maybe one post is the mud and then the other post is the liberation of the mud and then the other post is like the real talk of something else, like it's. So here's the thing about marketing is that, yeah, we've got tactile strategies and we've got the whole thing, but we've also got this very feminine flow that needs to come through, because that's the expander, right, that's the energy coming through to call in the magnetism of the work.

Speaker 2:

But most people aren't moving through both avenues. Where the strategy is this is what I desire to sell. Okay, I want this one-to-one portal to be sold. So that's a tactile. Then how do I call it in with the feminine energy?

Speaker 2:

And most of us are not taking the time to drop into our hearts, to connect into here, to be like how do I speak this into the world and trust that we're trying to follow scripts or we're trying to do like that, or that coach says you have to do it this way and we're like, oh well, she has seven figure success, so she must know what she's talking about. So it's like we go over there and try to grab what they're doing when it's like how do you keep coming back to here? Because your clients, your people, the people you're meant to be in relationships with all the things are led through here. The actual desire of who you are and the work you're doing in the world is a part of this, and the contract with the other people that are meant to work with you because of this mission are through here. So why are we thinking about this all the time? We're always up here because that's what we've been conditioned.

Speaker 2:

When we drop into here and we actually call them in through the heart, now they can find us. Now they're actually in the beat of the energy and I'm watching this transpire. What's the word? I'm like, what's the word Transpire in my world, where I have people now signing up for one-to-one portals that I don't even know, that I've never seen make any comments on anything or how they I have no idea who they are and they're like I want in, send me the link and I'm like all right, I don't, I can't wait to meet you. This is going to be fun, like you know, because the light is lit and my job is to keep shining through in the space of showing up and watching where the work needs to happen.

Speaker 1:

You know, it's kind of it's kind of ironic that you said it that way, because as you were talking, I was realizing I don't like that kind of marketing. That's not the kind of stuff I watch. I watch the stuff that's not the kind of stuff I watch. I watch the stuff that's like Ooh, this is going to be juicy, you know. So, yeah, I, yeah, and actually I was at we. We turned on last night Actually I didn't turn it on because my arms hurt so bad but my husband did the Da Vinci code and that's a really.

Speaker 1:

I mean, obviously there's a lot of energy that went into writing the book but then also making the movie and they are also talking about that. The female vessel, right, oh no, there's lineage that's, you know, descended from Jesus, you know, which you know touches a lot of heartstrings of a lot of people and their belief systems about the way that history wrote itself. You know, like it's just really pokey, it can be, and I think that tends to be an indicator that is probably hitting the right marker, at least for me when I do healing work is if, especially for me, when I, when I'm doing it on myself, if I'm like, ooh, I really don't like that. It's pretty much dead on like oh, you got it, then you're at the right place.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, the growth is in the uncomfortableness really about, like and that's the thing that us, as humans, have been conditioned to not want to do that If there's fear, if there's uncomfortable, if it and sometimes it's the soul saying no, but a lot of the time it's you've got to get through this to the other side, like we've got to go through this. Like nobody wants to do shadow work Okay, let's just put it that way but we've got to go deal with our stuff. Like we've got to go, cause we cannot get here without dealing with this Cause. Right now we're here and we will stay here or drop unless we start to do this Cause we can't stay the same.

Speaker 2:

It's like literally everything is energy, so it's always moving, so we're either going here or we're going here. That's just how the law of energy works, unfortunately, right. So it's like, yeah, there's, there's so much we're uncovering right now and so much coming through. But it's also like how do we get back to the basics and the simplicity of you right now are living in shame, so how do we now move through shame and let's get that, you know, like that's the thing, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, um, something else I have found myself, and I think it's true for everybody too, is that let's say that you uncover whatever it is. You, you figured out what it is. This thought pattern that's not serving you. Um, for me, it actually there's I don't think that's the right word, but it's a human word that fits. So, delay, there's like a little bit of a delay doing the recognition of okay, here's this belief system that's not serving me. Oh, what does that mean? And then you start to notice yourself actually saying those things to yourself, which I think a lot of times the conversations that we have within our own mind, we don't even notice that they're occurring because we're so comfortable with them. So I think it causes you to kind of notice that, and one of the things I've noticed repeatedly over and over is certainly something I'm learning to do as I have two broken arms, but it's just another lesson of the same thing right Is to actually fully be present and enjoying the downtime or the relaxing, the time that I'm supposed to.

Speaker 1:

So, um, yeah, monday, yeah, two days ago I had a friend, healer, who offered me a session and, uh, I was kind of joking with her because my younger sister called me this weekend and she says hey, what are you doing? And I'm like I'm just laying around watching TV, like I've been doing the last three days, you know, like been doing nothing. And so there's some judgment there, right, like it's a little bit of irritation, okay. So as I'm articulating this, she notices that language which we just touched on, right, and then I was like oh yeah, I'm really not enjoying it. I mean, it is kind of fun but it's not complete, like I'm not wholeheartedly there. I'm not like, oh yeah, you get to lay around, I get to lay around and do nothing and ask everybody for help for everything, but there's something in that about the fact that I'm not truly enjoying it. And it's kind of interesting to see when you get there, when you get to the point where I am, you start to recognize, holy crap, I'm really not.

Speaker 1:

So I still don't know what is completely in my way, right, Like I haven't. I haven't dug deep enough to really figure out what that is, because otherwise I know when you do energy work, it just shifts, it's just gone, poof, so yeah, so there's that place where how do you actually enjoy it? And then it's not just somebody else can't tell you what it is. It's like you have to figure it out on your own, because if you, if somebody else, is telling you what it is, I feel like you're again, you're still going outside of yourself trying to figure out. Okay, well, if I'm doing, if I'm doing this, then I'm enjoying it. Right, right Right. But that's not. That's not how it works.

Speaker 2:

Well, a couple of things. I think and, like you could probably attest to. This is that sometimes we're so caught up in our stuff that we need a guide that will help us get into it. And if we're working with the right people or the right medicinal plant which I'll tell you a story about in a second then we can get to the root of what it is faster, because we're not looking at it through the lens of our own perception.

Speaker 2:

So that's some of the work that I do is like I'm not here to tell you what has happening. I'm here to guide you into an experience so that you can go find the answers. And, just like in past life work where I'm like I'm here and I can see what they're seeing, but I'm asking them questions what do we need to do? How do we clear this? And they're like this is what we need to do. I'm like great, let's go. Why is this transitioning? And now, what does this feel like in your life today?

Speaker 2:

And I'm asking the right questions which are allowing them to dive deeper, to remove the barriers around their own perception, to go into the space. So, with the right person, sometimes that is an accelerator, but we all have access to this, but most of us are not willing to go deep enough into the work or to to like, lean into this space or to do the things necessary in order to move the energy, because we're too busy, because we don't have time, because it's not a priority, when this is actually the priority. Yeah, this actually is the work. This is what they mean. So they, you know, the elitists and those that control the world, let's say, in shadow energy created nine to five, work on purpose, so you thought that that was the work. So you forgot about the actual connection. Work to yourself, that is the work, so that you see it like a different landscape.

Speaker 1:

You know in the space, in the meanwhile, inside, most of the people are like oh, this is not right, you know yeah, completely opposing the thing.

Speaker 2:

So I wanted to share this with you because it just came through my field. But, like I, in February of this past year, 2024 I well, months before that I kept, I kept hitting this ceiling and I couldn't figure out why. I was like, why can I not get to the next phase? Like what's going on? I'm doing all things, like Like I'm really conscious. Like you know, I've been doing this work for 16 years, like I get it. You know, why can't I go there? And I knew there was something, but I couldn't grasp it myself.

Speaker 2:

So I just kept hearing mama mushroom is what I call it, psilocybin calling me forward, and my girlfriend really loves psilocybin and she was like, do you want to go into ceremony together? And we have a facilitator up the mountain and who's from Peru and she grows her own and it's like she's amazing. Her energy, like she is mushroom energy, like she is, and the way she held space for us in this like ceremony was amazing. And so that was the intention that I set and literally like, well, at first, you know, mushrooms took me up here and I met some of my soul family. I come with us, we'll go visit the planet you're from, and I'm like no, no, no, no, no. That's not why I'm here. You know, like I'm here for something else, like this is a thing. I need more mushrooms for that too. So we're going to go over here.

Speaker 2:

And I did a hero's journey. If you know anything about that, it's a like five grams is a lot to take time and that was really what my connection felt like. And then I dropped into a moment when I was 17 and I had was at this party and participated, or was highly encouraged, We'll say, like just because of the podcast ratings, I want to make sure we hold it there, uh, with multiple, multiple guys. That day that took like freedom away from me, let's call it, and all my girlfriends left me there and I literally I remember the whole thing now because I went back into that but all my womb was being blocked with all this energy that I hadn't left because I hadn't dealt with that. And then, in the same ceremony, I went to all the other lifetimes where this has transpired in my world and did a whole bunch of work inside of that space of understanding.

Speaker 2:

And by the time I was done the work, like hours later, I was literally in a mountain house sitting in the middle of Spain, with nobody else around, in a doorframe.

Speaker 2:

Just, you know, you can imagine being on the mountain, calm house, like in the door, just watching nature, and it was like this is the time to reset and it was like I could breathe because I had just done all this work and I was battered and bruised and like I had just been to fight and I know that there's another fight coming, but it was like. That was the like pause and it was this beautiful experience. And people are like how can you just really talk about the things that you figured out when you were 17, happened to you? I'm like I did the work, like I'm not holding on to it, happened I? I can't go change what happened. I can change the action in my physical form that I've been holding onto or the energy in my physical form that I've been holding onto. But it's like sometimes we need the guide, sometimes we whatever that is to assist us to get into the space of it all.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I want to touch a little bit on that. So you were mentioning on a healer and how having a healer or whatever you want to call them, whatever so these people in your life who help you to process whatever happens.

Speaker 1:

I find that the ones who really help are the ones that are not attached to the outcome, so oftentimes it's not people who are like your immediate circle. And so I would say that the psilocybin is probably exactly that thing, in that you were shown all of that stuff, but you were shown other things too. So it was like this is just another thing that existed and happened, but so were all these other things that happened. So you get shown that in a way, it's like oh, it's just this thing, it's not a big deal. Another way I would describe it is um, I have a bachelor of fine arts, and so we spend a lot of time creating artwork and then sitting back and critiquing it. Okay now, critiquing means you look at it carefully, you describe what it looks like and you also describe what you think or feel about it. So in a critique, you have a group of people looking at a particular piece of artwork and they all say what they have to say and there's no judgment, because you can't get your feelings wrong, you can't get your technically, can't get your thoughts wrong, right, and we're saying it in a way that is neutral and not like accusatory or anything like that. Now, sometimes it is hard for people to hear things, but it's said in just enough of a gentle way that it doesn't feel like a personal attack. And usually when we would come out of those critiques then you like socialize a little bit with the people like you would normally do so again you're still getting the non-objective observation of something and it's that's very similar, and so I would argue that's what healers do too.

Speaker 1:

They probably just don't do it as effectively, because seeing an image sometimes is not as depending on the person. It can be not as pokey or aggressive feeling. It's like you just see an image, this is just what it is. Maybe you didn't understand that was you at the time, um, and, and so you're. It's like. It's like watching a movie or something that you don't really get. You know. It's like, oh, you can see this really horrible thing, but it's not. That's okay. Whatever, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2:

Well, and I literally so. One of my coaches just made a post today and I'm going to paraphrase it because I don't know the exact words and I literally took a photo of it and threw it on a reel on Instagram because I felt like it was super important. But it's like and I'm in the course of miracles right now, which I was told I needed to do this year from spirit, and today's is like you give meaning to everything. You are the one and literally that post was the exact same essence as you're giving meaning to everything. So, if you go back to this life and you see all this stuff happening, or if you go into this scenario, like I've been in the Illuminati and that that also shows me what's happening in the earth experience now. So whatever it's like, how do you know that that's going to happen? I'm like dude, I like made the plan, like I was part of the group that like helped assist with all this. So like and I look at it from that perspective there is no good or bad unless we give it good or bad energy.

Speaker 2:

So sure, yeah, I murdered a few people in another life and I did this and I did um, like I, I've repented. I've created, like you know, the imprinting and I've cleared the karmic debt and I've done the work around that to shift the energy in the world. It's not like I'm condoning that experience and saying to you everyone, go murder people. That's not what I'm saying. But I'm saying like, why? Why are we holding energy on stuff that we can't actually change? That's already there? What are you doing today to move the energy forward in the life that you actually want and to live like what is it? The Dalai Lama says no, it's not the Dalai Lama. Someone says like be the Gandhi, be the change that you want to see in the world.

Speaker 1:

I did Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it's like well, I'm sure you got it from.

Speaker 2:

Gandhi but that's the key. It's like we, okay, we have this reference point, okay, this happened to me. Oh my God, that happened to me. I'm not going to sit here to be like now my life sucks because at 17, I, like all this stuff happened to you, you know, and it's like, okay, that happened. Thank you for showing me. Now I know where the work needs to be done so I can keep moving that energy through. And it makes so much sense for the 20 years after that about why I took certain actions, or why I dated certain guys, or why I was running around not feeling worthy in the fact of things and why, like, all this stuff transpired in my life and I'm like, oh my God, now my whole life makes sense, you know, and it's like amazing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you know what I'm going to tell you. I'm going to share one more thing here with you. So in that year of figuring out what the subconscious was like, really feeling through it, experiencing all that, one of the things that I was taking a dream interpretation course and one of the things that came through was I had this association of responsibility connected to love. They're not the same things, right? They don't really. I tell you, it's not really healthy to keep that. So the way that it came through, I don't really remember. I'd have to go back and see, but I feel like there was this particular moment in time. It was.

Speaker 1:

I think it was actually showing me that as an infant so I mean less than nine months I very quickly sensed the energy, the difficulty between my mother and my father, my mother and my sister, my mother and her mother, and so I came in and which actually I will attest my second born.

Speaker 1:

I only had two children, but I think when they come into a family, you know they're in the womb, they're hearing all these sounds and energies before they even come in. When my daughter was born, that girl was magical, which I probably was too, because I was second board magically knew when to not talk and when to step in and also a different way of saying something, so that the energy shifted, and so I didn't recognize that I've been doing that since infancy. And how does that play out in the world? Obviously it's a strength in some regards, right, but if it's not serving me completely, then how do I look at that? So I don't know that was. That was a really weird one, and I was very the questions that the person raised when they were giving me the interpretation. Of course, I just answered them, but it was interesting to notice just how intelligent babies are. They just don't have the there's no filters there.

Speaker 2:

They come down in pure, pure energy, like they are directly connected, still to source. So they remember their mission, they remember why they're here, they remember the energy of the other set, they remember it all. And then they come, then they can't talk which is like the coolest part, I think, about the whole thing. So like they're trying to telepathically tell you stuff and you can see them telling you things in the space of it, but most of us are so blinded by our own life that we can't pay attention. Then we condition them as parents and environments. So when they come to talk three, four years old, we don't believe them. Oh yeah, jimmy's got an imaginary friend over there. We don't talk about that in public or you can't say those things there, or you can't just go hug strangers and the thing. And we condition them. And then by the time that they start to really understand human life six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years old they're in the matrix.

Speaker 1:

Yes, which is us right? It's all of us.

Speaker 2:

And now we do the work later on in life and now we hope that as adults, if we're having more, if we're having kids, that that doesn't transpire. Or our grandkids. Now it's like how do we help them and how do we help our kids? Maybe be more open to that and maybe you can't assist. Maybe your job is to hold the energetic line and so that there's potential for that to change. But it will start to maneuver in life and we're going to start to see and we are seeing these beautiful babies come out and their expanded energies and how they show up in the world and they are in their liberation. But now they have to also realize that they're on earth. So that's a whole other mechanism of stuff.

Speaker 1:

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