Speaker 1: 0:01

Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast Mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and light.

Speaker 2: 0:21

And now we invite you to enjoy the show and light, and now we invite you to enjoy the show. I want to say it really really started when I was a massage therapist, giving a massage to one of my regular clients, when all of a sudden, a message came to me, and it was that his knot in his shoulder that had been there for a while wasn't from him sitting at his computer eight hours a day, but that something significant was happening in his relationship. And I just blurted it out without thinking about it and I didn't know where this information came from and he didn't say anything, and so I thought, oh my God, I put my foot in my mouth and he's never going to come back. But lo and behold, he came back the next week and he said Celine, my wife has been cheating on me and I don't know what to do about it. And he's like I don't know how you felt that, but he's like that's what it is.

Speaker 2: 1:20

And from that moment forward I was like, okay, I'm onto something here. I'm tapping into what's even deeper than what's showing up in our bodies, and I started to really put together that it's our bodies that are really kind of the last place where things show up. So I ended up going to school to hone those skills and become a certified clairvoyant, which sounds kind of funny. But since then I've had a lot of mystical, cool experiences and yeah. So I just thought it'd be cool to talk about some of those and if you've had any, I'd love to hear about those.

Speaker 1: 1:58

Let's talk about that. It's kind of funny because, as I'm thinking about a potential event that's that might be coming forth and this idea of like knowing where you get the information from. And so if you're exposed to any of those kinds of things like you're talking about, eventually you get the language to say it's channeling right. If you don't have some sort of preconceived opinion about if it's good or bad or anything like that, it's channeling. So what all that means is connecting to spirit and bringing it forth right, right.

Speaker 1: 2:36

What I find really interesting is how people bring it in differently, not only because of their personality personality but because of, like the situation. Like there there are some people when they channel, you know they have this whole ceremony, maybe they have a dark room. I've seen a documentary on netflix. It's really pretty cool. It's all about this stuff and, um, they're I don't know what, I forgot what they call it but basically this woman sits in a chair in a room and there's like a curtain around it, I don't know why and then they have like people in a circle and she's channeling for them I've seen something similar to that, right, but they also have like they call it something plasm.

Speaker 1: 3:12

It's like goo and stuff that comes out of the physical body. So plasm, that's what it is. Yeah, so it's like you know ghostbusters. Yeah, so there's that. You could do it like that, right. Or you could be creating a piece of artwork and then know what color to put down, or you walk up to people that you know and they're upset and you know what to say, right, like it's, it kind of depends on you, people around you and all of that.

Speaker 2: 3:41

Yeah, all the circumstance, yeah, the whole circumstance. It could be something, like you said, where you're really kind of in that zone, the silent zone where you do a meditation, or you can get in the zone when you are creating art, playing music, you know whatever get walking in nature and then sometimes you can have experiences that are just very random, like well, I'm sure I was in the zone giving a massage that day, but one okay, here's something when my first dog, who I was really really close to, of course, like she was my baby, and went everywhere with me, she died right around winter solstice of 2013. And this is when I live near Red Rocks here in Colorado and I had to put her down right around four in the morning and the person I was with at the time said let's go watch the sunrise at Red Rocks after we put her down. And so we went to Red Rocks and it was so cool because the rocks were sticking up over the clouds, the clouds were just below it and it was like this the whole scene was mystical and this black bird flew in front of me and I knew without a shadow of a doubt that that was my dog bell saying mom, I'm free, I don't hurt anymore and I'm good. So that was the symbol I took as her.

Speaker 2: 5:06

And then a few weeks later I was driving past Red Rocks going home and I was listening to the radio, as I always do, and the song Blackbird by the Beatles came on, and of course I'm thinking of my belly boo. And as the song was on, the numbers on my radio station changed from the numbers to a star and a question mark and a star and all these symbols I've never seen on my radio before during the song. And then as soon as the song ended it went back to the radio station numbers and I knew that was a sign from her too that she's here.

Speaker 1: 5:44

Oh yeah you know, I'm going to share one similar to that. Um, I was going, what was I going to? I think I was actually going to the first. These people were calling it a gallery, which is basically it's mediumship. Right, a gallery is a euphemism.

Speaker 1: 6:02

I think I could be wrong for a seance or something like that. Right, okay, these people, they were evidential mediums and they were practicing and trying to grow their, their experience or business or whatever, and I was. I just happened to know them, so I went to support them and I had a relatively it was a used truck, but it was new to me and it was like new enough that there would be nothing wrong with it. And I was driving down the road and the radio was playing and then it changed to a different station and I looked at it and I thought, no, this is not the first time it happened, right. So I looked at it and I was like wait a minute, did I push a button wrong or did I touch something? I didn't know? And I thought through all that, I'm like, no, I did not. So I think I tried to change it or something and it went back and I was like, okay, there's a message, right.

Speaker 1: 6:52

So I listened to the song and so I actually get songs like that a lot and I I actually have a playlist of them, and at that point it had only been a couple years since my, my husband died and I knew that these were messages from him, right, like I just knew it and uh, anyways, that's that's for me. That's how it comes through, like, honestly, in the last year, uh, even just the last six months, I finally got, finally got. I'm not gonna say it was a message, I don't know if it was a message or it was a realization or something but if you take love songs and, instead of listening to them like it's a man and a woman or whoever it is that's romantically involved, take it as a love song to you from your true self, then you're like, oh, that's it Right, because you're not looking outside of yourself. And so I have actually currently have a song on repeat that is just like that is the epitome of that.

Speaker 1: 7:55

Do you mind sharing it? Absolutely, it's OK. So I think you say the name Sade, but it's S-A-D-E, yeah.

Speaker 2: 8:01

Sade, oh, my dad loves her.

Speaker 1: 8:03

Yeah, a lot of people do, and this song is by your Side.

Speaker 2: 8:09

Oh, I already want to cry just from the title.

Speaker 1: 8:13

I've had it on repeat for quite a while, yeah.

Speaker 2: 8:18

That's so cool. You get messages from songs and it's so much huger than we realize, you saying like, instead of looking outside ourselves for that validation and the love but to go within and find it within us. You know, the more we do that and practice that, I feel, the more we have these mystical experiences and these synchronicities.

Speaker 1: 8:43

Yeah, I think that the more you notice them, the more you do wind up. Oh, I don't know. I'm not saying you're not getting. I still think you're getting them oh, and they're still there.

Speaker 2: 8:52

But I think your awareness is more sharp with them, like you start to notice them more and more oh, this is funny, you'll like this.

Speaker 1: 8:59

So same in reverse. That, let's put this in reverse. Okay, blair, you need to fix this. So I was upset with my husband this weekend and we were gonna go somewhere and I was like, ah, just go without me, I don't want to go. And then he convinced me to go, and so we get in the vehicle, and the vehicle we took is a 1997 truck. Okay, so it's that old, it has. It had just been worked. But that's here and we're there. We're driving down the road. We only have to go about seven to 10 minutes and we get to the first stoplight and I'm still really upset, really angry.

Speaker 1: 9:36

I had two hair clips with me and I put them in the dash and this noise starts happening. I'm like, okay, I'm going to pick those up to see if that's the noise that we're hearing. You know. I picked him up and then he says is it, was that the clips? And I said, no, it's still a clip, I've got the clips right here, it's not the clips.

Speaker 1: 9:54

And so the car started making, the truck started making more noise. We were, we were, I don't know. We did stop once and then he said, oh, we're going to make it. You've only got to make it one more mile. So he hits the gas and we go and it's really just getting louder. It's not like I mean the thing wasn't blowing up or anything, but you knew something was wrong with it, right, and we go, and then we had to stop at the next light and we stopped and like a second and a half later the thing just died, right, and I'm like, ooh that well, that doesn't happen all that often for us, right, but on the energy plane, there's a lot of things that have been said that I have heard it.

Speaker 1: 10:32

I tend to lean towards yeah, this is probably a reality. Much like the body. Uh, I was like, oh, yeah, it means this is like a clear signal you need to stop this, right. Like so, is it me being angry or is it something he's doing Cause it's his truck? You know, it's like my mind is going crazy and through the rest of that experience which was technically really was all fine, wasn't really that big of a deal, but we weren't dead stopped in the middle of the highway, he starts talking about what the situation is. He knew that the radiator was leaking, I guess, or something was off, and he had been checking it and he's very good with vehicles and things like that. And then he's describing it to me. He's like blah, blah, blah, the cooling system. And I was like, oh yeah, that's it, that's me, cause I'm so angry, I'm like losing my grip on you know, like I've lost my cool completely today.

Speaker 2: 11:23

Yeah, girl, that makes so much sense and you're so right. That's so on the energetic level when anything happens like that, including accidents, right Well, accidents. Quote unquote they're just signs from the universe that are kind of reflections of your energy to say whoa, wait a second, there's something you need to get here, right, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Here's a weird thing that's been happening to me lately. Okay, this is really strange, out of nowhere. Oh, there's my breathing Um let's do it.

Speaker 1: 11:57

Let's do it. Since we're doing this, let's do that. Is that okay? Will you lead it?

Speaker 2: 12:00

Yes, absolutely. So we're going to do the alternate nostril breath which we did last time I got to see you, and that is where we plug one nostril at a time. I like to use thumb and ring finger and I like to put my middle finger and pointy finger right above my right on my third eye, and we're going to use the thumb to block the right nostril and we're going to breathe in through the left. Hold for just a moment and exhale slowly through the right and slowly exhale through the left, in through the left and out the right, in the right, out the left, and one more in through the left and out through the right, and let's just return to your normal breathing and notice how you feel.

Speaker 1: 13:52

More in my body, definitely less in my head.

Speaker 2: 13:57

Good, me too. I feel like I slowed down a notch or two, actually, which is good.

Speaker 1: 14:03

Okay, so can we remember what we were talking about.

Speaker 2: 14:06

Well, cause this is so strange. Yes, I can remember out of nowhere Like I'll just be, for instance, like watching a show or taking a walk, and all of a sudden I have this weird vision and it's not really clear, but the gist of it is a rake or some sharp tool is coming at my eyeballs and poking my eyeballs out and I'm like, okay, so that's happened now probably four or five times over the last six months, or maybe less four or five times over the last six months, or maybe less four or five times over the last few months. And I'm like, what the heck? And I was just talking to someone about it last night and they're like, well, celine, what is it you're not wanting to see?

Speaker 2: 14:53

And I was like, oh no, I haven't gotten it, but I but I posed the question to the universe and I think when you at least pose the question, you'll get I'm going to get an answer eventually. I'm not quite sure what it is yet, but oh, oh, hold, hold the phone. Actually, yes, the first thing that came to me last night was, when I posed the question, that I was afraid to see my success or my power, instead of the other way around. Like, like there's a fear of seeing how powerful I am and how bright. Yeah, so that was the first thing.

Speaker 1: 15:38

I also kind of wonder if? Because when you so, I asked the dream interpretation instructor the guy he's really good. I actually asked him over the first weekend, like the open weekend there he does like a masterclass kind of thing and the answer is very clear and it was straight boom, that was just the answer and it was because he was talking about dreams. And I said and how does this differ from from when you have, you're in meditation and you have a vision, or you have to have a clairvoyant vision or something like that? And he says it doesn't, so it's all the same. So we could use the same interpretations and if we were to do that, anything with the eyes is about your clairvoyance, which corresponds with you developing your clairvoyance. Wait, the clairvoyance is the seeing right?

Speaker 2: 16:25

It is seeing. Yeah, clear seeing.

Speaker 1: 16:27

Okay, and so I was kind of thinking seeing with your third eye instead of seeing with the physical eyes, of seeing with the physical eyes, like encouraging you to remove that, that physical sense, you know, like making a choice to say, okay, I'm not going to see it with my physical senses, I'm going to see it with a third eye which you see entirely different things, right?

Speaker 2: 16:52

Oh, absolutely Like. Yes, your perspective is so much broader when you can look through your third eye, and thank you for sharing that with me, because that makes a lot of sense with what I've been going through lately. Yeah, so yeah, thank you, rake, poking my eyes out vision as morbid as that was.

Speaker 1: 17:14

Oh, yeah, it's not that bad. I mean, dreams can be crazy. Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know, like there are things that happen. I kind of wondered, like I think, if I had probably shared with my husband oh, this is, this is about one of us one of us, of course that I'm in the vehicle and the vehicle dies. I'm not in that vehicle all the time. Right, I definitely think it has more to do with me than with him. I don't know. I kind of wondered like how much you know. A lot of times, what we're talking about is how we operate, like we look for those signs and we make micro adjustments based on those things. I wonder, you know, like somebody who's not in this realm, or if it's new to them, how how would they take that? How would they say, okay, you're, you're reading into things, you know, or you're, you're just something that's not really there?

Speaker 2: 18:09

Yeah, because you know. But really everything is neutral and nothing has meaning until it's the meaning we give it. Right, you know we give things meaning and I don't know. So it's a weird thing to think about. However, what comes to me as truth is if the meaning you give it helps or comes from a place of love. That that's probably the truth, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1: 18:39

So I'm going to bring this into the conversation just because it happened to me this morning. I have a friend who is, uh, who's a light worker. She's kind of new to it. She doesn't really do it for business, she just does it because she's incredibly psychic and she has to like it's just not really a you know, it's not really a choice, um, and she is clearing out a lot of probably negative energies from traumatic experiences, okay, and she recently had something shown to her in a dream visually that was, frankly, probably mortifying and I think it was actually molestation, her experience in molestation. She was shown this in a dream and I know that with through the dream stuff is that it's irrelevant what the topic is. A lot of times we're shown it in a way that feels distant from us, so that we will take that in and understand that that is something we're dealing with. But if in the dream you are put in that position, that means you are so much more ready. I don't know the details of her dreams, I don't know what her position was in the dream, but she was messaging me today and, frankly, she's in a whirlwind of definitely two in her mind. I mean, as can be very much expected.

Speaker 1: 20:04

I think I would like to touch on this a little bit Because I think people outside of the energy working world sometimes they have a hard time seeing what I believe to. What I believe is honestly genuine truth, which is everything around us is a reflection of what's going on inside, right? So, given any particular situation, you know there's some really horrible things that can happen, that can be objectively stated that this is a terrible thing to have happen, but that doesn't mean that somebody is like causing it to happen. Right? You know what I'm saying, but in a way they kind of are.

Speaker 2: 20:50

Okay, I'm not sure if I, when you say that they're not causing it to happen, do you? Oh, oh, okay, let's take a dramatic one.

Speaker 1: 20:59

Let's say that somebody gets raped. Are you, are we saying that if they are raped, they cause it to happen? No, not literally, not physically right, but they have thought processes or they have emotions that are leading them into a situation where that may occur, whereas if they dealt with those emotions or situations or you know, whatever, all this stuff behind energy, work behind it, right then would they come into that situation? No, they wouldn't.

Speaker 2: 21:26

That's what that is exactly what my belief is as well. Yes, and, and I I also believe that sometimes we um create a blueprint. Well, we always create some sort of blueprint, before we come into our physical bodies, of, hey, these are the lessons that I'm coming to earth to learn, and so we create these scenarios, and I feel like, had the individual already learned whatever that was, they wouldn't have called that scene to them because they wouldn't have needed to learn whatever it was, and so I would never put fault on that person.

Speaker 2: 21:59

But yes, I agree with you that we call those on a subconscious level to us in order to learn something huge.

Speaker 1: 22:06

So, and what do you think, what do you have to say about children who experience terrible things like cancer or, you know, sexual molestation or something like that? Right Like, what do you say?

Speaker 2: 22:17

So devastating and at the same time, I also believe that children can come in to help teach those around them lessons of love. You know lessons as well, and so what a huge, strong spirit to be able to come in and hold something like that in order for the people around them to grow and learn.

Speaker 1: 22:40

Yeah, as well as themselves. Exactly yeah, but being the person in it, as I mean as a woman, we know when hormones get off it can be hell, right, like so. I would say the same thing. I would say the exact same thing is that's a? That is a description of, maybe, how it works, but experiencing it's very different, very similar to being aware of, let's even just say, these energetic hits or, you know, clairvoyance or something like that. You've got something coming in. It's not the same as talking about it. So right now we're just talking about it, right, it's not's not the same thing as experiencing it, and it's it is. It can be really, really rough.

Speaker 2: 23:25

Absolutely yes. So not to take away from any of that and, at the same time, you know, all of these things that are can be so true, that are very traumatic. They're the things that you know help us to grow and change and become who we truly are. Because, as the wood brothers sing in the song, happiness jones I don't know if you know it, I don't know, but he says, you know, I've never grown from being happy unfortunately, it's the things that put us through the ringer that help us to grow and learn and change and hopefully come even closer into love and who we really are. So if we look at it that way, then nothing is ever really bad. I mean, yes, it feels bad. Do you know what I'm?

Speaker 1: 24:10

saying yeah, and actually exactly yes. And I think when somebody comes to a bigger awareness, essentially we all get to that place at some point, but it's it's this awareness that we are all connected and we are all. You know. Like, frankly, when I studied astrology at first and I started looking at everybody's charts and so you, you know you look for different things, but one of the things you look for is struggle, like what is it that's hard for you, because that's what people care about, right, like that's what I care about. A lot of people care about that.

Speaker 1: 24:41

So I would look and I would see something in me and it would be like really touchy, like oh, I don't know if I like that, I don't know if I want to believe that, I don't know if that's actually right, that might be wrong.

Speaker 1: 24:51

But then I started looking at other people's charts and what I knew of them and what their experiences had been, because I'm the outsider and it's not quite so personal Like, oh yeah, that's totally it. So as I go through and I start looking at more charts, then you realize, oh, everybody's got their own stuff to deal with, including me. I just happen to be one of them. And so when you get to that place, you can even have compassion for this person who played a particular role in your life. That doesn't mean you keep going back to them or anything like that. It just means you understand that there's a purpose behind it and start asking how is this for me? How am I going to make this better? Then you really start to get where okay, now I can. Now you can start to transmute that energy.

Speaker 2: 25:36

Yes, and what a huge lesson that is. You know, because people talk about karma and it's like, oh well, maybe I called that in because I deserved it or whatever. But you can actually transmute karma if you ask those exact questions like how can this be for my highest good, you know? Or what can I learn from this? Or, you know, and us with forgiveness and and compassion, like you said, and and if we gosh, girl, and if we can come to that awareness, the peace that we eventually feel in our hearts, no matter what's going on around us, how freeing, is that Actually one of my gene keys?

Speaker 1: 26:17

I don't know which one it is because I haven't memorized them, but one of my gene keys has something to do with this. I'm not sure if it's 26. If it's 26, a whole lot of people have it. 26 is, I think, it's fear of like not enough. I'm really sure. I don't really remember exactly what it is, but a lot of people have it and it's fear. I know that and it's it's fear. I know that. One of the ways that Richard Rudd talks about in his little contemplations is that kind of stuff stays there. If you continue to believe that that freedom is outside of you, right, okay. But if you turn that around and realize that the freedom is within you, then it's completely gone. It has no hold on you, right. But realizing that over and over, every time you're triggered because somebody says or does something you know is a different experience than intellectualizing it, right.

Speaker 2: 27:12

Oh, definitely, definitely, yeah. Oh man, there's so much power in owning all the things you know like owning even you know the fear, whatever it is, fear of feeling uncomfortable emotions. You know that well, I'm the one feeling them and if I can just feel them fully and move through it, there's so much freedom and power in that, because you're not putting it outside yourself or giving it to somebody else to take care of, or someone else's validation to make me feel better. It's all within us and that's, yeah, that's so freeing.

Speaker 1: 27:49

Well, let's touch on what you just touched on, because that's a really big deal, like huge, huge deal, and again, I think it's one of those things that we can talk about and we can say, oh, this is how it works.

Speaker 1: 27:58

But to actually do it is an entirely different thing, which I know that you've been working on, because you shared with me what you've been doing recently. So this idea of feeling a feeling that's uncomfortable and, like you said, allow yourself to feel it fully. But I think what I know it certainly has happened to me and I've seen it happen with other people too is that until something's really brought to your attention, like for me even, I mean I'm not young, right, okay, and I had these dream interpretations and he's like you know, this is how you feel about your dad, or this is how you feel about your mom, and I'm like what? I don't know what you're talking about at first. Then it took two weeks and I was like, oh wait, he's right. Not only is he right, but I didn't tell anybody ever, right, but it's coming through the subconscious. So that's how we know that it's actually there. Um, and even recognizing that you have a feeling that you're not even feeling how do you get there?

Speaker 2: 29:00

Yeah, that's a great question, and it's about being allowing time for silence and allowing time for yourself to just be, and that means even maybe shutting, you know, not even reading a book, but just sitting in quiet and breathing. You know, that's where a lot of people get addicted to doing and they don't realize it's because, subconsciously, if they slow down, they're going to have to face something or feel something. Yeah, so it's so simple. It is about slowing the F down.

Speaker 1: 29:37

So I completely agree with that.

Speaker 1: 29:41

And so in this past year I've been working on, recently been working on feeling those feelings all the way through, allowing them to be okay, but also there's an intention of being in the space of I'm going to call it creation, but basically it's being in the energy of what it is you hope for, in a sense Like, maybe you don't have this right, you want to be in this new kind of energy and so allowing yourself to kind of if it was negative, we would say wallow, but like, almost like play in that energy.

Speaker 1: 30:17

If it was negative, we would say wallow, but like, almost like play in that energy. And as that has been presented to me in different ways from different people, it is like the easiest thing because what it reminds me of is just going back to what you did as a child. Right, you listen to music that you like, you piddled, or you know like you know you couldn't say I did these five things in the last hour like an adult does, but you still had fun, you know, you still enjoyed the moment. And so I actually I've noticed that even I know what you're talking about, the doing like when you start to recognize, okay, I want to go do something right now because this is uncomfortable. Just pay attention to what it is that's uncomfortable for you. But. But playing in that fun space doesn't either have to be like a specific way. It can be whatever you want it to be.

Speaker 2: 31:04

Like, yes, that's so important.

Speaker 2: 31:06

What you bring up is to yes, we need to feel our feelings fully and get them expressed fully, but then we don't want to wallow in that, we don't want to get stuck in those repetitive, you know, thought patterns and feelings, and so we want to pay attention to what we're thinking when we start to feel that we want to feel it fully.

Speaker 2: 31:24

But then playfulness, doing things that make you feel good, are great ways to then start to create those new neural pathways in your brain so that you can start to come out of it or start to even transmute those feelings and emotions and and and a space of gratitude, just being grateful for not only the things that are great in your life right now but, like you mentioned, things that we can't see yet with our physical eyes but that we want to to have eventually and be grateful for that as though it's already here. So that's a great way to get yourself out of the feeling once you've felt it fully. But both are very important to be able to feel the anger and the sadness and then to be able to bring yourself out and right, there is personal power. That is you being able.

Speaker 1: 32:13

That's freedom. That's real freedom, like it doesn't matter what you give to me because I can do this. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2: 32:19

And it doesn't matter what's going on around you there could be war going on around you and you have the ability to go within and feel what you need to feel and then change it.

Speaker 1: 32:31

Actually, you know that you say war. I really love that. The reason I love that is because a lot of people who are on this kind of path, like on a spiritual path, like that's the predominant focus for them. So these are the kind of people that would be geared to look for this podcast and listen to it. Right, a lot of them and I learned this more. It's not that I didn't know it, but it was said outright straight to my face repeatedly in this dream course.

Speaker 1: 32:56

But a lot of us choose like you're talking about soul contracts we kind of choose to come into lives that are tough for whatever reason, and the physical body becomes that thing that you can't ignore.

Speaker 1: 33:15

So when they're dealing with that and then they take it to the spiritual level, then they start to realize oh, this is all connected. So with that, people who are oftentimes on these spiritual paths have great difficulty, especially with digestion Like and you know what the metaphysical reason behind that is you can't digest life Like and you know what the metaphysical reason behind that is you can't digest life Like so life is hard, life is terrible or whatever right, and it's hard to swallow, it's hard to digest, and I'm in that band. I just realized I've had IBS for now. It's been like 30 years, you know, yeah, and it's not a fun experience, but it does work to be in the present moment. So let's go back to the body thing that you were mentioning prior. I don't think we hit record at the beginning of it, but you were talking about. You said the body is almost like the last place that it comes up.

Speaker 2: 34:09

Talk more about that Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, yeah, so these things that make us uncomfortable start as thoughts and then it moves it. You know, thoughts create our emotions and if we don't express our emotion so this is really interesting Our we actually have the ability to process trauma in 90 seconds If we're willing to feel the emotion at, you know, when it comes up, fully, without judgment. But if we don't do that, which most of us don't, and we kind of continue to ignore it or all the things you know, keep doing excessively, eating, maybe, binge, watching TV too much, whatever it is, and not feeling it, it starts to show up in our body. And it can show up in so many ways, you know, and eventually, if we don't look at it and deal with it, it can turn into this disease. You know, and this kind of ties into what we were talking about earlier.

Speaker 2: 35:09

Was I the one that caused this disease? And I think, on the bigger picture, yeah, you know, but not to blame yourself or shame yourself, but to use it as wow, how can I use this to learn and to grow and to shift and change? But you know, so these things do show up in the body and it's really important for us to calm our nervous system, you know, and use somatic tools in order to help us heal From breath, work to tapping I think that's called EFT. That's really helpful. Dancing, sometimes shaking stuff off, things that help our body to release and let go are really important to help to calm that nervous system and help heal. And they seem like little things but they help so much.

Speaker 1: 36:01

They really are. And I find it interesting you said that about the shaking, because if anybody's been around any listener has been around somebody, that just creeps them out pretty much. Most people will spontaneously shake, just like when they get out of the space.

Speaker 2: 36:17

It just comes naturally.

Speaker 1: 36:19

Yeah, there's a reason for that yeah, and actually as I do the qigong, more and more I start to recognize that the physical movements that are qigong are really just. I mean, they're what kids? Do you just let a kid do whatever they want to do? They move like that. They instantaneously know I need to go, you know I'm going to go swing my arms or you know like I'm going to, whatever they are. It's more of like a natural kind of response to the world and we spend so much time saying, oh be, still, stop talking. You know, do these things to conform so that you'll fit in and be as miserable as the rest of us yeah, let's start breaking that pattern.

Speaker 2: 37:01

Yeah, so, man, man, yeah. And just the more we're aware, the more we can learn and grow and share these cool things, and the more, the more we'll see these cool things happening yeah, so when somebody's dealing with trauma, what do you do?

Speaker 1: 37:18

you have like, can you say, like one thing that would help them the absolute most?

Speaker 2: 37:28

Allow yourself to feel the emotion that comes with that trauma, be it sadness, be it anger. With that trauma, be it sadness, be it anger, and then feel it fully, without attaching the story to it, without judging yourself for feeling it, and then choose a new thought. You know, do something playful, do a dance, whatever brings you joy, do that, that and then, and then notice if it comes back again, notice what you're thinking about. Are you thinking about the story, are you thinking about the, the event, again and again, and and you have the ability to choose a new thought. And it becomes easier and easier to do that the more you can sit in in quiet and just take time to be still, and take time to just slow down, and it will happen, thanks for listening to this episode of Mystical and Infamous Podcast with the Happy Lion Centercom.

Speaker 1: 38:38

That's podcast at happylioncentercom.