Mystical & Infamous

Energetic Responsibility: Self Healing First with Kathie Malby

Blaire Stanislao @Happy Lyon Center Season 3 Episode 44

Have you ever wondered if words are truly necessary for spiritual connection, or if our intentions speak louder than our prayers? Join us on this episode of Mystical and Infamous as we navigate the intricacies of prayer, spirituality, and personal healing. Kathie Malby and Blaire Stanislao reflect on how the elaborate explanations that accompany prayers often serve us more than the divine—questioning the necessity of spoken words in schools and beyond. 

Inspired by the teachings of St. Paul and the actions of St. Francis of Assisi, we explore the concept of continuous prayer and its embodiment beyond mere words. Discover how physical acts, such as using a rosary, can become tangible expressions of spiritual intention. We also unveil methods for integrating prayer into daily life, like tapping, to reconnect the heart and mind. Through this practice, we aim to foster a deeper spiritual awareness and connection that transcends the physical form, viewing others as ethereal essences.

Our journey culminates with a focus on personal healing through practices like Reiki and Qigong. We discuss the transformative power of self-care routines and the joy and healing they can bring when embraced daily. Experience the positive energy that radiates when one is aligned with themselves, creating an environment of comfort and peace not only for oneself but also for those around us. Listen as we reflect on the innate attraction and comfort that babies and animals feel towards individuals who are at peace, showcasing the profound effects of personal alignment and spiritual practice on both ourselves and those we encounter.

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Speaker 1:

Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast Mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and light.

Speaker 2:

And now we invite you to enjoy the show and light and now we invite you to enjoy the show. People sometimes in groups need to do a big explanation about what they're praying about, or it's a way to tell you all about their experience with a person or an event, and then we pray. I mean they say we pray. I mean they say we pray or we um it it. For me sometimes it's a way to gossip.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

All right. Well, it doesn't always mean that, but it's. It's like people have to figure out what they want to say, to get to the point of saying let's pray, instead of just saying I want to pray for joe, because the source, our, our god of our understanding, already knows yeah, it's a that kind of comes up for me.

Speaker 1:

It came up when they started with this fellowship of Christian athletes. Oh, what's this?

Speaker 2:

I don't know about it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, it's FCA, I don't know. It became a thing when I was in high school and I was like what is that? And they were like, oh, we go pray at the pole on whatever day. And I was like, oh, okay, I'm thinking, do you not pray at school? Like is that? Because of course somebody tells me you can't pray. I'm like, oh yeah, let me try. You don't know, I'm praying right now. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

I think that's where we think that our words okay, we're looking at this, this whole spiritual experience that we call prayer, and we're looking at it from our small perspective and thinking that unless we say all the words and get all of the intention in there, so that you know, you know, you know what I'm talking about, and then that energy together will send the prayer forth. What I think we don't understand is the prayer is already sent, it's already present tense, it belongs in the moment, and all the explanation in the world is only for the hearers, it's not for the one who does answer prayer Answer is probably not even the right word the one who already Heard it.

Speaker 2:

Already experienced and met the need for that person. It's simply awareness that we need to accept it, because there's always an exchange between us and the God of our understanding. As far as respect goes, and as far as my self-will, I can choose not to accept that healing and we do that a lot. We have things in the way and we don't want to deal with those things. We just want it to magically go away. Who of us doesn't want that a lot? We have things in the way, yeah, and we don't want to deal with those things. We just want it to magically go away. Who of us doesn't want that? Yeah, except there's something that happens when we have a chronic thing and we get the drama from it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, for others no.

Speaker 2:

I, you get used to those feelings, yeah Right, and we start to identify with them and so forth, yes, and pull it over and talk about it and feel it and be intense about it and then ask for healing. Yeah, but we're not ready to enter into the the process. Sometimes it's a long process to be healed, but I believe we can be healed oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So essentially okay. So what we're really talking about here is are we doing the energy work ourselves, like on ourselves, within our being, instead of talking? What? What is it Talking to talk, but not walking the walk, or something?

Speaker 2:

Right, very well said. I purchased a subscription to Vlad's. Oh yeah, I don't know what that is a podcast, or I don't know. It's not a podcast, it's a teaching that he has. So I purchased a year because it was very inexpensive, but I had done a free one with him for 31 days. He called it a 31-day challenge or 21-day challenge. It takes three weeks to change a habit. Okay, so I think that's where the 21 days came in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I think that's where the 21 days came in. But anyway, I did it with him and we always started every single teaching. He had started with self Reiki Because he's a Reiki guru. I mean, he's good at it and he's an excellent teacher and he practices what he preaches. So I did that for 21 days and it was so enriching.

Speaker 2:

And I have been one who does daily Reiki for myself, and especially since I moved, because I'm not working on other people, there's just me. I mean, I work on some family members that come, but I'm not talking. I'm talking that in a business you have a daily experience with people in touch or the kind of businesses we've had which are touching fields, and I, I have just been doing Reiki every day for myself and it is so wonderful and I do that wonderful and I do that and then afterward I send that to all these 100 and almost 200 people every night and it just feels so, so simple, so clear, and I don't know for each person what will happen. I don't even try to know, I don't even try to do anything except see their name and see their face and send that and that's. I do that with each person twice. First I set it up, go through all these people. Then I go back and do it again with them, and so I do it twice and it is so fulfilling for me I don't know for them, so it's a way for me to love them. There's another thing that's happened with me that I'm more aware of now that then I've been doing it for years, but I've come to a conclusion in the last two years, because of that cancer diagnosis, that my body is, in the scriptural words, temple of the Holy Spirit and I walk with that awareness that this house that I live in is holy and I haven't done a really good job at taking care of this beautiful experience called my life. I've done just a lot of things I wanted to do and just disregarded her, but two years ago she said no more of that, no more. If you want, if you want any help from me, you're gonna have to help me because I'm getting old. You're not, but I am, and I realized that I was I.

Speaker 2:

I carry prayer in my body and that is the best word I can use and not only do the Reiki for me and give it to others, but I have these little places in my body that I put people. Our body parks memory everywhere, not just in the brain. And and so I have these. I call them slits, they're just little tears in my heart and in my mind's eye. I see a little note with somebody's name on it and I stick it in that. Not everybody, but there are certain people in there. I don't have to think about them anymore.

Speaker 2:

St Paul, in one of his letters, the epistles, said that we needed to pray always, always, and I've taken that literally and thought you know, it isn't just words. For some reason we seem to think that unless we explain all of it and that's where we started here and get it out, out, and maybe that explanation is more for ourselves than anybody else, but we seem to think that it's it's all about words. Saint francis of assisi talks about, uh, one of one of the things that he did an amazing, humble man and he. He was walking along with his friars and he came upon a priest and he honored and respected the priest by kissing his ring, which is a very formal olden way of doing things. It's still done. When you meet the pope or a bishop or an archbishop, that's how you greet them.

Speaker 2:

And they walked along and some of the friars started griping to him and saying you know, why'd you do that? He's not even a decent human being. And he said because I honor the office that he holds and I honor the Eucharist that he holds and he shares with us. He said I honor that. And he said my hope is by doing that he will come to a change of heart.

Speaker 2:

And I really believe that these prayer things I've got going on in my body and different ways in which I experience them going on in my body and different ways in which I experience them. Sometimes it's walking. When I walk, I like that to be my prayer time and I have a rosary that I carry and I pray that for lots of different reasons, but usually for my family, and that is an outside experience of touching the beads and moving them and praying the words in the old prayers. But the intention is what's behind the rosary? It's not the rosary itself and it's not the words, but it's the intention and it is a format in which I can touch the prayer for the loved ones that I have.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, and that's probably why it was easy for you to visualize that. It's interesting. You say that because I have just recently been. We're working on our book.

Speaker 1:

I just left that and I wondered how wonderful and we were, I, in trying to come up with words that kind of describe things, I finally have gotten to the point where I'm like, okay, I'm just going to tell people this, because apparently other people don't have this image in their head, but it reminds me very much of what you're talking about. They don't, they really can't, yeah, but from what I remember, I've always had that, and it's like when you talk to somebody or you meet somebody, yes, they're in a physical body, yes, they have a voice, name or what their role was or any of that 3D kind of stuff. So I have this and because I'm a visual, like I have, you know, obviously I have a fine arts degree, I'm a visual person, but it's not the only way I can perceive things. I just had this image of you, know, but that's not that person. How do I know? Well, that's not that person.

Speaker 1:

How do I? Well, what is that person? Well, I don't know what they are, but just imagine them as like a puff of smoke or it's like this puff of stuff that doesn't have clear edges, but that's what they are. They're more of that than they are the physical body that they're in, but it's very similar to what you're talking about. If you just tuck away that, tuck away that prayer for them, it does what you're talking about. If you just tuck away that, tuck away that prayer for them, it does, it becomes part of your entire being.

Speaker 2:

And then you walk around and that's what it is Every so often for my heart, because I want to remember I'm praying, but I want my body to remember. I tap it oh yeah, yeah, and that I just think. Well, it jumpstarts that heart to say oh yeah, Okay.

Speaker 1:

You know, it probably gets you out of your headspace and down into your heart faster too, I would imagine.

Speaker 2:

I remember Father Mack was our chaplain at Central Catholic High School in Great Falls and he had an interesting life. As far as a priest goes, he wasn't a parish priest. He belonged to the diocese but he wasn't a parish priest, wasn't you know? We belong to the diocese but he wasn't a parish priest.

Speaker 2:

He was a teacher of biology okay and he would talk to the kids and one of his, one of his preachings was always about it's it's 12 foot a 12 inch rule. It's 12 inches from the brain to the heart. Oh, and it's a long 12 inches sometimes. Yeah, I thought that was so cool because that is a a physical image you can take to heart and realize sometimes, what we got going on up here in this, this uh fabulous brain, isn't so good down here in the heart and we need to, I would say.

Speaker 1:

I would venture to say it's really helped. But I mean talking about it being so far like we're just we're in that so much and the outside world encourages that so much well and we courage encourage.

Speaker 2:

Now we don't encourage conversation. It's a. It's a real poor medium now in the way we're educating educating children, educating young adults and I would say up to about 40. It's a really lost art. That's happening with communication and a control of emotion and that isn't that. It isn't there there, but it isn't as practiced, as much.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't need to be when you have a device between you and the other person and I think that that we we, we have this loss going on and because we do, we don't have the articulation of data and knowledge going into the brain. It's not the end, all be all. It's not just because it's knowledge doesn't mean it's fact, and just because it's knowledge doesn't mean it addresses emotions, and just because it's knowledge doesn't mean it works. It's simply knowledge. It's how each individual begins to sort through it and live it and give it meaning.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, which is interesting because when I went to my son's graduation this past spring, first off, I didn't realize how much I did not really enjoy high school. Until I'm sitting there at the graduation and I'm like I don't have anything with me, I don't like I don't have a device to distract me or whatever. I don't have anything I know, like, and I I finally realized my daughter was there with a friend and I finally realized if I, as I listened to what they said and just imagine myself there, you know, I just thought to myself myself.

Speaker 1:

You know, if I had grown up with a computer in my hand that would play music anytime and little things that go in my ear that nobody can see, you can bet your bottom dollar I'd have had that stuff in and I'd have had a sound director in my life and I'd have been so much happier yeah absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I could be alone and in a group and nobody would know yeah, yeah, I kind of wonder like, is this creation that we have come up with this internet and all that you know, devices and all that? Is it really just going in a sense like going down the path of what you're talking about, which creates an issue with communication and a lack of connection with people? It just goes down the path a little bit farther. So then it gives us some irritation that we can say, oh wait, that's not okay, that's too much of it, and then we can do a course correction. You know, it's not that the information itself is bad, as you were saying. It's what we do with that information, right? So it's not that the knowledge is not bad.

Speaker 1:

And that's interesting too, because I think these generations that have grown up with the internet one thing that I saw, even as a teacher, was and a parent like holy cow, you guys, the young people who grew up like this they have to use different parts of their brain to figure out what is something that's worth, that has a value, that makes it worth consuming and digesting and believing or getting on board with or any of that, whereas when I was in high school, if it was in paper, that meant a lot of other adults seemed to think it was important and well done, right? So we didn't have that, that, that whole thing, or like, is this garbage that I'm reading right? But filters were there. Yeah, they were there, but now it's not. It's like anybody who can make a page and that does not take much to be able to put something on the internet well, and I don't know what for the, for this generation.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what that's going to look at, because each generation has the seeds for its own healing. Yeah, some of us, uh, get some of the healing done and some of us don't. In our own generation, you know mine, mine, sold out to money and economics, oh yeah, big time. I mean everybody wants to be rich, right, everybody wants to own, and not just a little bit but a lot, whether you need it or not. And that's my generation. I mean we want the cushy retirement and we want to be able to travel and have no problems. It's a real big revelation to turn, let's say, between 65 and 70 and have your health go to heck, you know, and all those things you hoped and dreamed and planned for are limited.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's an eye opener Now for those who have worked really hard at their health and kept things going. Those who have worked really hard at their health and kept things going. How hard it is for a couple when they both get there and they've both been enthusiasts for their health, but only one of them has health. Yeah, how frustrating, yeah. And so my generation has its own issues it has to deal with, and the next generation has your generation has some other things to deal with. Well, your kids will too.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it's different and we don't know what's better than the other. We think we do.

Speaker 1:

I don't think anything is better than the other. I think it's just different yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's just different and I believe in those young people. Now, I don't like some of the things they do, but why would I? It's not something I get. Yeah, you know it's not something I understand, but I do believe in them and I believe that there are a lot of good ones in there who want to be good leaders and good people and they have some things to say. They're not mature enough yet to do it, but we're seeing a few of them and they're showing up between 40 and 50 years old, but they're really a few of them. But when you move back down into this younger age with your daughter and son, and then younger than that, with the preteens entering their teenage years, yeah, we've got some different people going.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, I think they're all. I think you know they're all. Everybody's got their generations. It's they are having breakthroughs, and you know some of the issues as generations.

Speaker 1:

I think is also like, how do you work with the older generations? Like, how does it, how do you meld with them? So, like my generation, do you work with the older generations? Like, how does it, how do you meld with them? So, like my generation found a way, like one of the things I read about my generation I thought, oh yeah, that really is spot on was that you know, I think we were the latch key kids, so both parents had started working Right, and so we were independent. And so they make the joke about my generation of you know, these, the kids now where they need their parents to do all this stuff, when you know, like we were two and four years old over there, like taking care of the other sibling and doing all this stuff because parents were at work or whatever. And and you know, every situation comes up with its own issues, like every, because everybody, just every person, does right, like it doesn't matter what, what your situation is, you are going to have a response to it, and it could be traumatic and it could be something you have to go through to figure out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, and family looks altogether different today, and what our young people experience as family is so different. Um, you know, when I was growing up, you went home at night to supper. If your friend came to play on a saturday and you were having breakfast, they waited on the step until you got done with breakfast and you went out to play. There wasn't, um, there wasn't. This everybody is a part of this and we got eight people spending the night and oh yeah, no, no, there was, there, wasn't that? Um, it just looked different for family and, and then how we experience friends and, and there was agreement among adults yes yeah, this is how you did family and it's kind of funny.

Speaker 2:

but I grew up in a little dinky town, you know, like 400 souls and, um, you know they helped raise the rest of us. I mean, if I, I, if I did something I shouldn't have, my mother knew about it before I got home and I don't know how she knew, but they probably nabbed one of my brothers or sisters and told them and sent them home to blabber, and that's not true now no, no, uh, pretty soon though, okay, uh, so what we had made notes on last time, like you know we were, we were touching on it before.

Speaker 1:

but like this idea of people who are leading or you it doesn't matter what kind of leadership role it if you've got somebody in there who's telling you how to move the energy or how to work the energy if they're not doing the work themselves. You know, that's pretty, I think, depending on where the person is right, like, because I think as energy healers we know we kind of can see where, ish, the person is when we talk to them, whether they're a leader or teacher or not. And so I think, at least for those of us who have done the work, it is kind of easier to see oh, you're doing all this, talking about this stuff, but you're not actually doing the work. I don't know, do you think that people who haven't done that kind of work before, do you think that they can see that? Or do you think it even matters? Because if they can't see that, then they just haven't done that amount of work, because whoever is teaching has to have done some work.

Speaker 2:

Well, I would say they've done work, but I think sometimes we get caught up in a direction that we prefer and we forget we have to stay in the trenches too, because things shift in us. The teaching doesn't always have to have new stuff, but it needs to have a freshening of what we share, and that needs to come with our aging in our practical side aging in our practical side. You know, I am really kind of amazed at how I'm feeling about the Reiki by just daily paying attention to me. You know, I have spent what 25 years focused on other people.

Speaker 2:

I did the Reiki for myself, but the focus, the focus was other people, and I love it. I mean, one of the things for me at night is I can't hardly wait until I have my time alone to send the Reiki. It's such a joy in that it's a time for me to love the people who have asked for help or seek it or in some way have indicated that they need it. And I don't begin to interpret what that means. If I spent time in that that um, clairvoyant side, I would know, but I deliberately don't, because I believe that's kind of an invasion of their um, their own will well, I also think that it's like what's the point, like why does it matter?

Speaker 2:

Exactly None of my business. Truthfully, I don't want that for me.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think it's. If you ask, that's different. Yeah, I think it's very telling that, as experienced as you are, when you make a shift and you make it more about yourself, how eye-opening that is for anybody. Because I mean, I know when we first met that was one of the first things you said is you teach, you teach people Reiki, and then you know, check in with them later and they're not doing it. You know, and I'm just as guilty, cause I took the course and I was like, oh, this is great, that's nice, I could do this for other people. And then I didn't worry about it and I was like, well, whatever. And then I realized, well, I don't want to defend it, I don't want to argue about it, like, if you're, then we'll do it, if not, that's fine.

Speaker 1:

But you know, when I got to the point where I was like, okay, I have to do this and we're joking around about this and we're pushing it off, was when I had some sort of physical. I think it was probably tendonitis or something. Some something got irritated within me, in my physical body and I was like, oh, I don't want to do this, I don't want to go to the doctor, I don't want to take the pills. You know, like I, like I don't even want to believe any of that stuff, that whole. You know about what it is and how do you and I was like you know what I do believe in is I really do believe in the Ricky. So you know what I'm going to do it and I'll tell you it did okay, I definitely felt it, and then the next day it was so much better and I was like, oh, this is so easy, you know. But I didn't take that time until I was really dreading, going outside of myself again to go get support.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's amazing, and my friend Sandy and I are going to Tai Chi, which we've done all these last years, and we also, because it was back to back. We're also taking qigong and it's just a basic eight brocade qigong, and I've never studied um qigong, I've done it with people, yeah, but I'm hooked.

Speaker 1:

I want to embrace that and learn what healing comes in that too so into the body and you have to go through this motion and you're spending the time in the motion while you're paying attention to the body, which means the mind shuts up, just like the greatest thing it is wonderful.

Speaker 2:

It is wonderful and so it's like the reiki is. Is is creating this environment up here in the brain that is going down here and saying what, what else is there that I need to follow? You know to be the best version of me that I can be.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because that's what we're going to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, and then hopefully that's manifested enough that others feel healing when they're with you. I don't think we always have to say things. I don't think we always have to intend them. I don't think we always have to intend them. I don't think we always have to ask somebody. I think sometimes our mere presence affects the people around us in a way that feels good. When we feel better, we heal.

Speaker 1:

You have to. Well, I think that's a natural state of things, right, I agree. Heal, you have to, well, I think that's a natural state of things, right, I agree. If we're honestly in alignment with ourselves, then we're projecting out that energy you're talking about. The other person recognizes oh, they're in alignment. That feels really good when they get drawn, they just like to kind of like closer yeah well, that's what they talk about with animals and babies and stuff like that yeah, exactly same kind of thing, except I've never really been attracted to me.

Speaker 2:

People say you want to hold my baby, don't you?

Speaker 1:

no thanks that's you, that's not them. I'm sure the baby wants to come to you oh, I don't know a lot.

Speaker 2:

Babies in Haiti loved me and I figured out after I left Haiti that it was because of my warm body. It was winter there and I held these I think it was three different babies I mean baby babies and they, they just snuggled into me and I, you know, I'm, I'm a grandma body and it's warm and it's it's fluffy, fluffy and it's, you know, it's a safe, pillowy place to be, and so I think that they found a comfort and a safety there, and so it was. Yeah, don't give me away, it's warm.

Speaker 1:

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