Speaker 1: 0:01

Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast Mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and light. And now we invite you to enjoy the show.

Speaker 2: 0:25

Foundation is everything for me, Because if you don't have a strong foundation, like you were talking about, like entity attachments and stuff, if your, if your vibrations going down, you're more susceptible to those lower energies. But if you learn that have that strong foundation and you can bring that up, then you can just go and everybody else's stuff just kind of it doesn't stick because your energy is strong.

Speaker 1: 0:51

So I just had a hypnosis session yesterday with somebody, and let's see what was a. It was this similar conversation where you're you're getting grounded or centered or whatever you want to call it, where you're getting aligned and you feel confident in yourself, which is when I teach Reiki. That's the phrase that I use, because the word protection has a lot of connotation. So on some level, to say the word protection, it means that you have a fear of something else, right? Protection the actual word is not the best, in a sense, defense. The best defense is to be centered and grounded and know who you are right. So that's what I say with Reiki is like you know, you're remembering who you are, therefore you get stronger, and that is your protection. It's not necessarily that you're setting up a barrier or not. That's okay, you can set up a barrier too, but by doing that, you're acknowledging that there's a reason to have a barrier, right. So you're giving. In a sense, you're kind of giving your authority over and saying I'm not sovereign You've said this before I'm not sovereign over my own being. So therefore I'm going to use this protection. So I think it's a real misnomer Now something that's coming in and I don't really know why. Maybe we'll figure it out.

Speaker 1: 2:05

I saw this post. There's this amazing woman who I've tried to get her to come on my podcast. She's just busy living life and I never actually met her. I knew her through a friend of mine and my friend said you've got to connect with this person. So I did on social media but like she lives in Arizona, I've never met her. But her husband is an artist and she makes these posts and they're just, she's just like always on the path of this stuff. So she made this post and it was a picture of a mantis and it looked like the mantis was on, like this teal green, I don't know, maybe a like a wicker chair or something, and it's, you know, it's a really small mantis, you can see, and she says she loves having conversations with her daughter because this mantis came up and they said that she is, or the mantis is the color of her celery. So they named the mantis celery. So they have this conversation. The mantis is all walking around while they're and doing different things while they're having this conversation and doing different things while they're having this conversation.

Speaker 1: 3:03

And I thought to myself so I've heard this several times over, especially with people who are, who experienced this psychic awareness, and they're with people who don't know that or that is scarce them, especially as a child I think you experienced that too where they're psychically aware and then as a child, because they don't know any better, they say something and then they get whatever shunned right. So then they spend the rest of their lives kind of overcoming that, whereas and I think a lot of the people who are in this they come to realize that maybe they've had past lives where they shared something like this and essentially they were murdered and probably murdered in a really terrible way. So you've got that ancestral stuff. Essentially they were murdered and probably murdered in a really terrible way. So you've got that ancestral stuff. But I always thought that about. So I was told that I was.

Speaker 1: 3:49

I was a crystal healer in a past life. I've had dreams about them, you know. I've been told in those uncertain terms I used crystals. Do I know how to use crystals? I certainly haven't ever taken a class in them.

Speaker 1: 3:59

However, ever since a child, I was one of those kids where my mom would, we would go on a vacation or something and there would be like that container of rocks that were polished and I go over to the container and of course that made her happy. I know as an adult now, it made her happy because that stuff was cheap, you know cause, like, oh, it'd be pretty rocks. And I remember thinking, in conversations with people where they're they're afraid to share that, that, um, people where they're they're afraid to share that, that um, I always say, well, like you know, it's just really easy to distract them. You just say, oh, I like the pretty rocks, like it can be really super shallow and be like. You know, you can't argue with that. You know what I mean. Like, do you really want to shun somebody because they like something that's beautiful? Or you know what I'm saying. And it's like, uh, the.

Speaker 1: 4:44

I've heard phrases where people were talking about, they shared something, about their their knowledge of the elemental, so fairies or any of that stuff, right. And then they get, they get shunned and they get shut down, whereas I'm like, why would you shut any kid down about believing in fairies or seeing me? Who wouldn't want to be there? Who wouldn't want to see that? Right, I don't know. To me it's a little. That's a little. There's some sort of disconnect. If you've got a child who says that stuff? Why would you not want to encourage whatever fantastical world, whether it's imaginary or not, who cares, it's fun. Why would they not want to be there?

Speaker 2: 5:21

see, I think, like these, they say that once they a kid hits seven, that that's kind of what it all goes away. But honestly, it's, why would you? I agree with you because, like, I have a seven-year-old and I see fairies all the time, like, and she's always asking me mom, is our mermaids real? Mom, is this real? Is this real? Is this real? And I'm like, yeah, even if it's not in our dimension, it still exists, like it came from somewhere. And so I feel like there's like that mainstream where it's like, oh, we'll be judged, but honestly, more and more people are opening up to it, like I've had people message me and be like, like, even family members are.

Speaker 1: 5:58

Like our fairy is real so they're looking for, yeah, real, because it's fun well then, fairies are annoying.

Speaker 2: 6:07

Let me tell you fairies in your house. I'm telling you they will move your stuff, they will hide it, they will play with it and but even like my kid like, she's always like mom. I know I was like mermaid in my past life and she's like I'm gonna be a mermaid in my next life. She's like I just know and I'm like, yeah, you are probably right. And then I had, at the same time she's telling you this, I actually had somebody else completely different. Be like are mermaids real mermaid land?

Speaker 1: 6:33

today, yeah, yeah, well, there's a place in um Florida called wikiwachi springs. It's like source central something or other. I think it's central western. But um, when I was growing up, so I was born in 77. So that's how old I am, so it must've been like the eighties, okay, and my father took me there and I just thought it was the coolest thing. And I think everybody who goes there I've seen they have a documentary somewhere, um pretty much anybody who's into it they just adore it. They just like just I don't know why you would take anything like that away from people. Um, it's kind of like you know you like to watch this kind of movie. Why would you tell them it's a bad movie?

Speaker 2: 7:13

because people want you to be down on their level yes they can bring you down.

Speaker 2: 7:18

And parents I'm, and I am a parent parents are the worst and I know this might be a little controversial, but but like I don't agree with the way that I was raised, right, my parents. I have the understanding that my parents did the best that they could with the tools that they had. They were quite young, and so now I look at raising my daughter as I didn't like the way that they like I look at them, I can analyze from that outside perspective, without all the emotions, and go, okay, I look at them, I can analyze from that outside perspective, without all the emotions, and go, okay. This part I do not agree with. Here's where we're going to change it so like for me, parenting it's very different and where my daughter and I actually have a relationship. We actually talk, we communicate, we like she shares stuff with me, like she's very open, because I've created that space and that safety where most parents it's like you need to listen, do as I say, don't talk out of line like blah, blah, blah, blah blah.

Speaker 2: 8:15

That's why they always rebel, right yeah, and, and I've been even the way I raised my kid. I'm like her. Sometimes she'll have issues with her friend. Hold on, my throat went dry. Even though she'll have issues with her friends, I have to explain to her. I said, look, if you can look at them as no attend or bad attention is better than no attention, and then have that understanding and this is a seven-year-old kid that I'm talking to, like she absorbs the knowledge. And she and I was like, if you can understand that, if bad attention is better than no attention when these kids are acting out, that should tell you right then and there that they are not being seen, they are not being heard, they're not getting attention at home and they are being suppressed.

Speaker 2: 8:58

But what people want is just to suppress their kids. They want to have kids and then they want them to shut up. Why? But if you can act like, the way I approach my parenting is she asks these questions like are mermaids real? Yes, but in this dimension, here's how it works. She's even asked me mom, how do past lives work? Like, because I always talk about it and so I'm. I explain that. So instead of like, I just talk to her like a person where I don't think most people think to do that, because this is just another human, another soul. It's not like you know. It's like people don't view their children as that. So they don't. They want to suppress because of their miserable they can. The easiest people to suppress and bring down to their level, even if it takes years to do it, are their own kids.

Speaker 1: 9:45

Yeah and okay. So what I'm learning and I'd love to hear your input on this is that you know, as infants, as babies, we come into this world. First off, we're already connected to the mother, meaning we know her. We don't know words for them, but we understand her emotions, right, because they produce chemicals, and it doesn't matter, you're just connected as a baby, you just are aware of that. Then you get born and then you get exposed to your parents, who are usually either male and female, or they have a masculine and feminine energy, and so, as an infant, we're experts at realizing or recognizing and understanding energies. That does not mean that we can talk about them Of course a baby can't talk, right. It doesn't mean that we can know what to do with them. We don't even know what to do with our own bodies, right. So all of this stuff is kind of happening at once, and what I'm learning, especially through the dream interpretation, is just how smart babies are in terms of reading energy, and so we take the masculine and feminine energies that are presented to us, usually from our parents, and we extrapolate our understanding and our conclusions of those energies and we put them out on everybody else. So usually, if a mother is let's say that they're what you're talking about which is you do it my way or you don't do it at all, right, like you're this control thing, then you usually you start, you associate that essentially that's a masculine energy coming from somebody who's supposed to represent the feminine energy. And so you kind of extrapolate that and you say, you say in your head, oh, this is how the female energy works, which, what we're describing, there is a masculine energy, so the female energy works with the masculine energy, which is not true. So it's a misalignment with what it is. And then we wind up projecting that everywhere else. And, um, what I want to share, the way that it has come up for me. So I'm cutting, currently cutting the ties with my mother, so that's supposed to be the feminine representation, right, but my mother also was like that and it came through my dreams and the person analyzing it said you know, you're seeing the feminine energy, kind of like what we were just talking about, like the coming through is the masculine in a masculine way, but really it should be more feminine, open, relaxed, kind of like you're talking about parenting your daughter. So I'm, I'm in the process of recognizing that and um, well, what do you do with that? Well, what does that mean, she said.

Speaker 1: 12:18

She said, uh, was your mother essentially masculine in this way? And I said, yes, did she run a tight ship? Basically, it was like did. Was there order presented by your mother? Yes, there was order presented by my mother. And she said, okay, well, this, this dream, is saying you need to work on that, because that's essentially not the feminine energy. And I said, well, what other way is there? Like there's, there's a friend that I have in the group too, and she's a twin. And she said you know, that's really hard to usually process that kind of stuff. Somebody asked me what's it like to be a twin? And she says what's it like to not be a twin Like you?

Speaker 1: 12:54

just don't know, you know you don't know another way. So it's like um, opening up to a different way. So I think I kind of think like those energies where I think what happens is, if we have parent and I think that's why people who are they go this path, usually had difficult relationships or they have difficult home lives or whatever they have, things that are difficult it's to get you back in tune with your higher self. Right, you're who you really are and when? Because when what somebody presents to you is not what the higher self says that the world is, then you start to recognize okay, that doesn't resonate with me. So then it feels bad and then you go seeking right, like you just know that there's another answer, instinctively. So, yeah, it's kind of weird.

Speaker 1: 13:48

And she even said something that the effect of you know running a tight ship. She said it was exactly what you're talking about, which is if there's a feminine energy who's acting too masculine or the masculine energy is too strong, it'll be things like kids always sit in the back seat. Kids, you know, are told to be quiet, that kind of thing. And I giggled because even with my husband just a few years ago, as we first started getting together and he has a daughter, so we'd have kids right in the car, and so forth. I was like, well, you know, generally speaking, I always grew up with the adults sat in the front seat. It didn't matter who you were, adults always sat in the front seat, you know.

Speaker 2: 14:24

Yeah, was that not how it was with her?

Speaker 1: 14:28

When you, I don't remember, I think. I think I don't know. For me I guess that was. Well, that was challenging my belief system, right? What I understood it to be is that the adults sit in the front seat, but the adults sitting in the front seat and not taking into account if a kid has an and it has input, maybe they have a reason for sitting in the front seat or whatever. And so I think she wanted to sit in the front seat or something, and I didn't. Whatever I thought was like. Well, this, this isn't really a legitimate reason, and adults always sit in the front seat. Why? Why would the kids even think that they sit in front seat? You know, that's me in the, the clothing. In a sense, that was me adhering to that belief system that I had created through my mother.

Speaker 2: 15:10

Oh yeah, there's a lot of belief systems like that, though, and, honestly, like that is one that I do agree with to a degree, where it's like okay, like if, maybe if they're getting car sick or something like that, like they need to. But, in my opinion, like, yeah, kids, like kids in the front seat, like if you're going on a trip, generally, yeah, adults want to sit together and sit.

Speaker 1: 15:31

Yeah, right, there's some, there's some logic. I think it's where it gets blurry. It's like there is some logic to that, Like there is some logic to that. And even I don't know when it's been several years, but at some point they, they started to recognize the accidents that people were getting into. If the person in the passenger seat weighed less than a hundred pounds, they would get much more injured, Right, so you don't want to put a kid in the front seat if they're less than a hundred pounds, you know, I mean, that's just like a logical thing. That's not like you sit here, you sit there, but it was more of a. It was more about the, the idea of the, of the the child is kind of put in their place in a sense, and that you have this role and you don't. You're not this flourishing young human who you know has enlightenment or anything like that. But yeah, that's. I think it's definitely an antiquated way of approaching parenting, but you know, everybody has.

Speaker 2: 16:21

Most people wouldn't agree, probably, with the way that I parent or wouldn't understand it because, like, my daughter and I have a very, very good relationship. We do communicate a lot and she does know her role, but I also. She is okay to call me out yeah, she is the first person to call me out. Or if, like, we're having a discussion about something and she's saying, mom, you're confusing me, like I don't understand. Like last night we were talking about, um, not taking on other people's stuff, little girls that were, uh, next door to us. One of them wrote on the, on the, on the cement, in chalk, which which she cause she left a little bit of her chalk outside that I hate you, nyla. And I was like I got the mom outside and I'm like, look, this is escalating now. And so, from the physical point that I looked at it, I was like, okay, I'm done, this is you guys. Like your kids are like, and they were friends, I'm like, um, she's excluded from this group. This is what's going on. Like I laid it out into this mother, I was so fed up in a nice way, but I'm like, this is what your children are doing and I don't think that anything happened from it. I don't think she cared, because she is. I don't think they're very connected, right like that. There's that, there's a big disconnect there. That's why negative attention is better than no attention.

Speaker 2: 17:41

So then I had to step back and go. Okay, like I'm coming from the, I want to protect my kid, like my mama bear is coming out, like I'm going to go psycho and I. But I had to step back and go. Okay, now, like what are you creating here? This is where I had to bring the spiritual aspect. They said I was like what are you wanting? Because at this very moment, the both of us, we both have to take responsibility, because I'm trying to protect you and I'm getting my backup and I'm feeding my energy into this because I don't know what to do. And you're creating this because you're so focused on the fact that they hate you and it's being thrown in your face so hard.

Speaker 2: 18:18

But I said to her I was like you have two paths. I said now we need to choose. I said do you want to keep going down this path where you've already, like she, this kid has removed so many things already, where she really struggled with, like since we've been here and has come so far. And so it was like I could just see it was these two pathways being presented. And I was like, okay, so you have a choice. You can either keep going down this path and keep having all this hatred.

Speaker 2: 18:42

And I said, well, how do you feel about yourself? Like, what do you think of yourself? How do you view you? Because this is a projection of you. Everything that's inside of you is a projection and is outside. So look at this. You need to, like, sit back and actually think.

Speaker 2: 18:56

And then I said, okay, now look at this other path, where now you have all these other friends that are starting to and where that really like playing with you and you're having a great time, you're enjoying yourself, things are working out for you. You know like you're expanding a lot, you've really grown. So I said now you get to choose. Which way do you want to go? And she's like well, this one one, I like this one that's with all my new friends and everything's going so good. And I'm like okay, then we both need to stop feeding our energy into this, because together, especially lately, we are creating this. And I said the universe did you the biggest favor right now, because they just wrote that on the sidewalk. You just got shown that this is really not the place you want it's time to end. And so she was like okay.

Speaker 2: 19:43

And then we were talking last night and she's like mom. And I was like you cannot take responsibility for them writing that on the sidewalk. And she's like mom, you just told me that I'm creating this and now you're telling me it's not me, I can't. It is confusing. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I was like but there's two ways of looking at it. You have to. You're the creator, said if you can create all that hatred towards you, think of all the love you can create. Where do you want? What do you want to create? And that's what I said. Like there's the difference. There does not mean that you are responsible for their actions. You do not take that on, and so it's a little confusing, but it is confusing.

Speaker 1: 20:19

But adults go through the same thing, right, like it's no different. And you're right, it is. It really is genuinely a gift and, of course, I think I personally think it's really a blessing that she has you to actually say that when she's young, so that she knows when she's older, you know that's this becomes an automatic thing. But I kind of find it interesting, because it really is the human predicament, like as a whole. We don't understand how can we okay, we're creating this, but now I want to not create that. And there's a difference between focusing on the not creating of it, which is still focusing on it, right, or shifting my energy in a way where it actually I'm really focused on doing something that happens to be different, but really what it's doing is distracting my attention from that thing that I don't want to create. So it's funny because my son just graduated this weekend and this past weekend and they had practice for graduation on Thursday and that was like their last day of school was Wednesday, so Thursday they practiced, so he had stuff to do for school, then Friday he was off, he didn't have to do anything. Graduation was Saturday, so he made plans with a friend of his to go hiking. So they drive up to the top of the mountain and they go on a hike and this is actually a pretty well-traveled like it's very popular around here path and because it's up higher in elevation, you know you're going to have a little more snow up there still snow on the top of the mountains and his friend was walking in front of him, wasn't any particularly far distance or close distance or anything like that. She was just walking in front of him and she slipped on ice and she had her water bottle or metal water bottle in her hand and she threw her arm up to balance herself. She didn't even fall, but she threw her arm up and he just happened to be right there. It hit his tooth, broke his tooth. Okay, now, what I find interesting about this is that he broke his tooth.

Speaker 1: 22:09

Also, playing another game was playing like they call them airsoft, like BB, little plastic BBs. They shoot the boys, get all into this, whatever that is, and um, but he had orchestrated this whole thing. You were like 20 people at this thing and he loves doing it, so it was like a big deal, like he had really planned this thing out and they go through the whole. Maybe it wasn't 20 people that time, but it was some people and they go through this whole thing and at the very end one of them shoots at him while he's smiling he just got his braces off, okay, hits his tooth, broke his other tooth because this was before. This is almost a year before. This is literally like less than a week before school starts and when school starts it's his senior year. When school starts the first day of school, they have school pictures, which doesn't really matter because they weren't actually using that picture, but regardless he would have a busted out tooth in the picture, right, well, we were able to get that part at least patched for the picture. But here we are again doing the same thing, literally less than 24 hours before he graduates, he gets his other tooth broken.

Speaker 1: 23:09

And I find what I find really, really interesting about it is like you were saying that your daughter is getting shown like calling to her these people who are not nice to her and saying mean things to her and so forth, and it turns into this manifestation of it being on the street, written in letters that says I hate you, right, really horrible, but that's factual. Boom, you can't say that it's not there. It's like you have this event happen. Now you've got to have two chipped teeth, two chipped front teeth. I thought him, like you really got to work on this because you don't have that many teeth, you know you don't want to like, and they weren't like breaking off in a piece where you could put it back on.

Speaker 1: 23:48

It was like he said, both times they were really shattered. But what he really also recognized on his own was, you know, it could have been anything that was different, like my face could have been turned, I could have been a step farther back, you know, like anything. But it was just perfect, luckily, just to get that one tooth. Matter of fact, he had the color from her water bottle stuck on his tooth for a while. But, but it's like we have to go to these extremes so that when we start to recognize, oh, there is a pattern here, oh, there is something that I need to shift that energy, we have to go and say what is it I'm creating that's causing this to happen? Yeah, yeah. And it's different for adults, like, think about adults who are in toxic relationships or they, you know, whatever it is that they're manifesting in their life, they're manifesting it to an extreme to pull them closer to themselves. So they recognize, then, that they have the power to change things.

Speaker 2: 24:46

I always tell my kid, cause my aunt always says this to me, cause my aunt's in her fifties. And so she always says and I'm, I'm in my twenties. So she's always like think of how far you've come. Where you are right now, you're only 20. I'm going to be 29 next month. Holy shit, sorry, it's going to be 20, 29 next month. And I'm like, and she's always like look, think about how far you've come, and you're only 28. She's in her fifties and she's like it's taken me this long to get to this point. And then I look at it and she's always says your children will learn faster than you will. New generations that are being born like. They're very intuitive.

Speaker 1: 25:28

And they have parents who are saying listen to your intuition, right? Instead of shut up and be quiet.

Speaker 2: 25:35

But I would say like, so I even tell my daughter I'm always like you're only seven years old and you're already at the stage where it's I'm 28 years old and I said I'm now getting that, that cognate, whatever it's called. Like that, that realization that oh, hey, I'm creating this, hey, this is the universe giving me this sign. Like this is like, yes, it's been the last few years, but it's it's escalated so much where I can pinpoint it really quickly and catch myself where she's seven years old and I'm right there to help her catch it. So then by the time she's my age, think of the level that she's gonna be on and so much further ahead you know, teaching.

Speaker 1: 26:15

I think I instinctively knew that. So I taught public school for like nine plus years and I remember thinking that same thing. So I was not of so, so I wasn't so much older than them that I completely disconnected. Like you know, generationally people usually have a hard time with their parents, but definitely their parents. Generation is what I mean, but also, even farther sometimes, is the grandparents' generation. Like they just don't connect at all. The kids don't get like.

Speaker 1: 26:42

Even my husband and I, we do struggle some with the way the kids actually schedule things, because when we were young you had to schedule things in advance, like the person organizing it had all the details. It was written on a piece of paper. You handed it to your parent. You also knew all the information. The kids now they're like oh, I have this thing I have to go to. What time is it? I think it's about this time and when are you going to do it? When it's going to be over? Oh, I don't know. You know, like they're just totally cool with that. There's all factors into that. Anyways, there's that disconnect between the generations and when I was a teacher I didn't have all that disconnect in the sense that I understood where the kids were coming from and I did see them as little humans, which makes it fun, so I didn't have that relationship with them. That was that sit in your chair and be quiet kind of thing. But it's, it's crazy how just that little bit of leeway, a little bit of understanding opens the door, because I didn't have I didn't have a whole lot of behavioral problems. I mean I can't say I never wrote a referral, but I didn't write more than 10 referrals in 10 years. Okay, and there's some people who write referrals like every day, right, and a referral is basically you get sent to the principal's office and you have a consequence. But yeah, there's that, that leeway, that transition between where are you and and how are you going to shift into this new frequency.

Speaker 1: 28:06

Another thing I wanted to add is, uh, I wanted to share. You talked about how far you have come in this time period and how far your daughter is already. I mean, I think probably parents of children now also feel the same. I just want to share with the listeners. There really needs to be and I'll honestly I think it would be better to have no judgment of where you are personally. Of course it helps also not to have judgment of other people, but we're mostly concerned with ourselves. And I say that. And so I want to share something that came up that I was like holy crap, I can't believe this.

Speaker 1: 28:42

So in the dream interpretation the first one I got analyzed, or not. The first one this was this was a little while into it, but I had a dream about a celebration which is supposed to be a birth birth dream, and so I'm late to the celebration. That's not good in your dream. And people were opening. There were kids and an adult I think it was a husband. The kids were opening presents.

Speaker 1: 29:04

Then we decided to put the presents away. So we go into this room to put the presents away and I have in my hand a toy. That's something that they opened. And I was like what is this thing? Is that an alligator or is it like a dinosaur? And so I was like looking at it, twisting it all upside down all that, and the person doing the dream interpretation she says the first thing she said was did your parents know you were going to be a boy? And I said no, not in 1977, they did not. And but then I remembered also for years, for my whole life. They always said they thought I was going to be a boy. I don't even know what I just said if I said that wrong. Anyways, they always said we thought you were going to be a boy because you were so active in the womb compared to my older sister, okay, so they thought I was going to be a boy.

Speaker 1: 29:51

So the dream itself was actually saying that's how I felt on the day I was born. Does that make sense? Like a boy, I felt like they were like picking me up, like the stuffed animal, examining me, like is this really what you are? I don't know what you are. And as I felt into that, so first I was like, okay, whatever, that's kind of weird, right.

Speaker 1: 30:14

But then, as I felt into it, I started to recognize yeah, I probably did feel that way and of course, it was reiterated through the years, but I definitely felt that way. And that's the key where you recognize okay, so I'm 46 and I'm having a dream about my birth that I haven't addressed those, those responses, right. So exactly what you're saying about how far you come and how far your daughter has come, right, they get to skip some of that because we're we're more open to encouraging them to connect right with spirit. But everybody has got whatever it their life is. They've got things that kind of hold them back and that's their plate, like it's not a bad or a good thing, it's just a thing you, you choose what you're going to go through before you even come.

Speaker 2: 31:06

Yeah, but like for my daughter, like I would say like I know she, because she's always like mom, I'm so grateful you're my mom all the time. She says it to me daily, multiple times a day. Sometimes she's just so grateful because I encourage her to be herself. But I watch her and she's like mom. I'm not psychic like you are and I'm like cause I had a psychic me when she was one years old, like maybe a little bit before that that she has all my same gifts and I was a very, very, very psychic child still a very, very, very psychic and so I was like, yeah, you are, but I see it.

Speaker 2: 31:41

The difference I watch is because, like when I grew up, it was all the dark, all the dark, like I thought I was evil growing up because of what I could do and like the things that would move and you know all the things that would happen. And she doesn't have those same experiences because I've learned, I've grown, I know how to protect my space, it's. I feel like once you get to a certain point, it's you have this energy of that's just no longer allowed in my space. It's not a thing that exists here and if something does walk through, then it's it's on a little bit higher of a vibration, because nothing low is allowed. It's just like an automatic knowing where I'm not trying to focus on oh, I have to protect. I got to do all this stuff and you know like you still do that before, you do like channeling and stuff. So it is done, but the focus is different. So my house is always clear. I check in to me, like I can tell when she brings someone home from school, like if someone's like hooked into her energy, we clear it off. She knows how to use the tools to do it.

Speaker 2: 32:40

She knows how to and so, watching her, she's like mom, I'm not psychic and I will watch her. She'll read somebody and not know she's doing it, and then get so and then they get frustrated with her because they're like oh, I didn't say that and blah, blah, blah and she's like mom. They don't like me or mom this, and I'm like that's because you're reading them, because she tells me all the time I'm not psychic like you are, I can't do it, I don't see anything. And I was like because I keep the space clear, you are protected.

Speaker 2: 33:09

You're not having to protect yourself constantly and always be on guard. You get to just be. There's a huge difference from what I grew up having to always be on guard because, okay, what's going to be hovering over my bed, what's going to be happening versus what she experiences now to it being just a natural, normal thing. So it comes through when it needs to or when she feels like you know, like whatever it is that happens. So it's it's very different and it's more natural for her versus Well, having started this channeling, I was really excited to do it.

Speaker 1: 33:50

But doing this channeling course and recognizing oh wait, I've been doing this literally my whole life, didn't know it, didn't have the words for it, right? I kind of I kind of wonder if, like I was just looking up, as you were talking, the definition of psychic Okay, so it says relating to or denoting faculties or phenomena that are apparently inexplicable by natural laws, and then the next definition is relating to the soul or mind. Okay, so, just by our definition, that are apparently inexplicable. Right, that just means that the collective is not and I don't mean the real collective, I mean the 3D collective like there's not this like mainstream sort of right. The mainstream doesn't acknowledge that there's some other way of getting this information. Well, so now we're kind of evolving into as a society, we're evolving into that space where we're starting to recognize, yeah, there is a way to get information that's not through the five senses yeah right, um, so I think there's a, there's more acceptance of it, so to say.

Speaker 1: 35:06

I'm not psychic. I would assume that in a child's mind that translates more. And I think I mean I would say consistently what I have heard. You use the word psychic, people immediately, generally people will honestly get very defensive because they're there, they don't understand it or they get scared right, like, oh, it's that weird stuff.

Speaker 1: 35:28

And and actually I've had multiple times where people say the word witch, right, there's book, I bought a book right, that says something about being a witch or whatever. I don't know that I would have even bought that 10 years ago. But I buy it now and I'm like, oh, that's just a word, like whatever you want to call it, it doesn't really matter what it is. Of course, if you get into the book then you recognize, oh, it's just spiritual practices connecting with that, the energies that you can't necessarily see or measure with the tools that we have. So what I'm saying is like the word psychic itself has so many connotations it's very similar to that word protection. There's so many connotations to it or use the word witch, whatever you want to call it that are not really indicative of what it really is because people don't get it.

Speaker 2: 36:18

So there's all that fear associated with those things that doesn't really have to be there, whereas if they really understood, the energy, it wouldn't be quite so fearful, I agree yeah, I don't think it is scary, but I feel like the more you get into this, like this community, there's so many people mm-hmm like for me, like I me, going to the store is the closest I get to normal, Whereas like it's just not in my reality. Like there's so much where people are like oh, spiritual people are so hard to find. I'm like really they're everywhere I turn Just because that's what it is.

Speaker 1: 36:49

Well, okay, so this the occult thing, right, like so, psychic goes into the category of the occult. So occult thing, right, like so, psychic goes into the category of the occult. So occult just means hidden knowledge, which of course is another word that scares people. But basically it just means hidden knowledge, right, okay. So I find that really interesting because I know exactly what you're talking about and I've actually shifted, probably largely due to my widowhood, but I've actually shifted into, if I'm talking with one of us, these kinds of people you can talk freely, right, like, you know, you get it, it's easy, then you're not going to get shunned or, you know, sent to the insane asylum or anything. And and then sometimes you know you're not, and I just call them normies. I mean, that was a phrase that I heard related to the widow life, because becoming a widow, your mind just expands in a different way.

Speaker 1: 37:36

You're going through this trauma. Sometimes people really associate with it. It doesn't matter Collectively overall. If you experience loss of someone really close to you, whether it's your spouse or not, you kind of get to that place where you're kind of forced to connect with spirit and so, and then you also are dealing with your humanness. And so how does that? What does your humanness cause you to do? Because we all do different things that sometimes even we know on a higher level. We don't really have to do this, but yet we do it. There's a reason, we have a drive for it, and that's just part of being human. So there's an acceptance of being human, but then there's that distinct difference between when you're aware of both of those kind of I don't know what you call it basically modes of being that they're there together at the same time, whereas previous to your trauma, you don't have that awareness. Yeah, everything is just this reality. That's here.

Speaker 2: 38:39

Well, yeah, you got to. I would say, like you got to go down. You have to in order to go up more, to learn more, because if we were always in that same state, you're never going to want something better or want something new, you're never going to experience what you really are there to experience.

Speaker 1: 38:56

Yeah, yep, and that goes back to the thread where you got. I don't know if we recorded that or not, but the thread words like if your heart coherence or your frequencies are going down and you know, having dips and then going up really high, you have that discrepancy where it's not quite as strong of a wave pattern and when it goes down is when you're able to connect to. Yes, you start to recognize the lower frequencies, but then, by recognizing them, you can also choose to focus somewhere else, which is what your daughter did.

Speaker 2: 39:26

Yeah, even in that, it's okay Every time you go down. The one thing I learned recently, like this last year has been okay. I keep hitting these down cycles where I feel like I'm hitting rock bottom over and over and over. Every time I hit it it was like okay, I surrender that because I don't know what to do. Obviously that was a path that I was choosing to go on and this is where it led me to rock bottom. It's not working.

Speaker 2: 39:51

So now I need a new path opened up, and that was when I had to actually like surrender to the universe, god, whatever you want to call it. That's where I was like okay, I, I put this, I take this off me and I give it to you now because I don't know. And every time I would do that, it was like this new path would open. And then all of a sudden, I'm shooting back up in a new. But I learned what I needed to learn. So then, when I went back up again, it was like that next thing and it kept happening because it needed to play out to get me to where I needed to be. And that's how it works with people. It's like if you're not going to hit the rock bottom. How are you supposed to get to the new path, the new life that you're manifesting?

Speaker 1: 40:30

And then, as we go through it which I think is what the young people are today are really learning when they have parents who say things like you have said is that when you learn to recognize this shift, wherever the shift is before you hit that rock bottom and you make the adjustment, it's not that you have to go all the way to the bottom. It's learning to recognize that energy as it shifts and then, when you notice it, then make your shift so that you can then go back up Right. So then it becomes less dramatic and it becomes more consistent.

Speaker 2: 41:03

Yes, because you have a new layer, like a new minimum layer, a new minimum level. So then your rock bottom that used to be way down there is now a lot higher. And then it gets a little higher each time. So it's still hitting that rock bottom, but it's at a new level. You no longer are new minimum standard. You no longer have that standard for what you used to have. You yourself have grown, you're no longer willing to put up with that. So you're still going to hit that rock bottom for the new version of you. And then you got to shoot back up.

Speaker 1: 41:35

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