Speaker 1: 0:01

Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast Mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and light. And now we invite you to enjoy the show.

Speaker 2: 0:26

Channeling itself. Sounds, woo, woo and light. And now we invite you to enjoy the show. Channeling itself sounds woo, woo and weird. Okay, but when somebody, when I was growing up, and you would hear stories and somebody would say you know, I had a vision, or I talked to God, or God spoke to me, that's the same thing. You're connected, you know you're, you're kind of like in the zone.

Speaker 2: 0:47

However you go there, yes, however, you're kind of like in the zone, huh. However you go there, yes, however you go there, it doesn't matter, okay, um, so I mean, it's a very natural state, but, like as she was. So she starts with light language and if you're not familiar, I know you are because you've been in the group with us, but, um, a lot of people are not familiar. So I'm just going to touch on what that is and I'm going to use my explanation of it. Light language is people making noises. They're in the zone, they're relaxed, they're receptive and they just get inspired to make noises. Most of the time, nobody knows what they are. They're not human language, but their sounds, and they have specific things or sounds that they're making. They know when they're done, they know when to take a pause, they know how to change whatever it is they're saying, and the idea behind that is it's. You know, sound is frequency, just like everything else. Is the sounds very easily understood as frequency, and the idea is that light language is, is is languages that come from a higher place than this 3d world. Okay, so the idea is that the, the language, is coming in and it essentially will provide an environment or puts frequencies out that help people to either improve their dna or, you know um process emotion, whatever they need. I mean, we don't actually know what these languages are actually saying.

Speaker 2: 2:09

Some people can translate them into the language that they speak. So in our group Janelle does light language and a lot of times she'll do what I like to call something like. There was a movie called Spanglish, which is where Adam Sandler had this Spanish speaking. I think it was like a maid or a nanny or somebody that came in the house and trying to help and she had difficulty. She really didn't speak English very well. So essentially they kind of both learned each other's language a little bit.

Speaker 2: 2:36

And so, you know, spanglish is kind of when you just merge, like you say, half of your sentence in English and half of it in Spanish. So, anyways, that's kind of what Janelle can do is that she does the white language. It sounds, you know she has certain sounds that come through, but then a lot of times she'll just translate it. And today in class, as this woman was demonstrating and showing and encouraging us to do stuff with her, so she I think she I don't know what you call it, but she did some kind of healing or like, oh, activation thing or something, basically helped us to prepare to be able to learn how to do this oh okay, so it was an opening like a portal, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 3:15

So she did that first and then she explained to us about light language and then she actually kind of, in a way, she kind of held her hands because she did some light language and she encouraged us to just continue.

Speaker 2: 3:26

While we're in an online class and everybody has their volume muted, who knows who is doing it? I'll be honest, I didn't do it. And then she was asking like, oh, you're funny. Well, I was actually doing something else at the same time too, but I was listening to her. But then she was asking for people to like chime in, and you know, basically she was going to kind of help them or give them feedback or something. And so a couple of people chimed in and they did their noises and she gave them feedback and it, you know, there were a handful of them that were actually like okay, do you mind starting first? So, again, it's like training wheels, like I'm going to do it, and then you kind of pick up where I left, leave off, and so it was really interesting to watch and everybody did it differently. And, um, she's talking about how do you get into the space where you allow this to happen?

Speaker 2: 4:12

I mean, I'll say last year when I took this. It's not that I mean I've been around white language before, janelle's done it and I've been around her for a couple of years and I've I've heard it before, but I don't know. I done it and I've been around her for a couple of years and I've I've heard it before, but I don't know what I never really like dwelled on it. To me it was just noise Like it didn't matter what noise it was, it was fine, it was nice. Usually it's you know, gentle and uh. But to be asked to do it myself is an entirely different thing and I did feel very awkward last year. So I might have done a little bit of it, but most of the time I was like, yeah, I'm not good enough. But this year I'm actually taking a different channeling course and we're not channeling light language per se.

Speaker 2: 4:52

They get the information. Essentially they channel to find out what is each person's channeling method, and then the guy who's teaching you to do it actually coaches you into that. He says, okay, we're going to develop this method that they say is best for you and you're going to focus on that until you figure out how that feels. And once you figure out how that feels, then you can use other methods to get your information. And so we're doing that and I'm getting more comfortable with that as I do that I'm starting to recognize there are many times in my life, many, many, many like way bigger than the word, many, um, that I do channel right Like it's just normal.

Speaker 2: 5:32

It's just like you go into this whatever you get in the zone, or you just know something, or you just you know you're walking in a store and you know I think I need to say that. And then you might have a conversation with yourself like well, I don't understand. And then just sometimes it gets loud, it's like no, you need to go say that to the person. And then eventually you just, okay, I'm going to go do it. And the more you do it, the more comfortable you get with it.

Speaker 3: 5:53

But you can start to huh Until they know you're a nut.

Speaker 2: 5:58

Well, you know, I'm like I'm okay being a nut, so like whatever they want to call, but not so anyway. So I'm learning that really, I've been doing it a long time and all I'm doing is kind of learning to identify it as quote channeling. And so this other lady was giving her class and she was instructing and trying to help people, and, as she's talking about the different feelings that happen as you go through this process and the steps that you do, what she was saying to me sounded like because she was talking about writing too. We tried to do writing Like automatic writing.

Speaker 2: 6:39

Yes, yes, automatic writing is a form of that, but they can also, you can also channel what I think what they call. It is light language, and it can just look like scribbles on the page, like it's not actual letters that we recognize, it's not symbols from another language that we know on earth. It's just different lines that must mean something, just like the sounds must mean something Right, must mean something, just like the sounds must mean something Right, and so it just kind of, in a sense, it just comes out of your hand with a pen in it, and so I was asking her questions about that. And my first curiosity for me personally was okay, I know I'm supposed to write and I know I can.

Speaker 2: 7:21

I know you can do automatic writing where you just essentially channel the information. But on top of that, I know that for me for most of my life, because I use writing as helps me to process things or helps me to say things when I can't get involved in the emotional situation or whatever. But there's also times that I'm writing and I know that feeling. It's like when I was a teacher there were times I had to send emails to parents. Right Could be stressful, okay.

Speaker 3: 7:48

Then they're done that.

Speaker 2: 7:50

Yeah, um, but I somehow I had this amazing confidence and it wasn't like cocky, like I always knew what to say or whatever. I just knew. Okay, I'm sitting down to write this parent an email. I know I need to convey some certain things, I know how I want to come across. Okay, we'll see what comes out. And when I did that and I was just kind of very open to that I knew, like I, I instinctually knew what the parent needed to hear and it wasn't, it wasn't.

Speaker 2: 8:18

I mean, I can't say that there's not like a formula, because there is. You always need to praise the child. You need to explain what's good about the child, right. Then you need to explain the situation, as my mother harped on me all the time. You need to say it from an objective, observer point of view. You can't say what the child felt or what they thought, but you can say what you saw, right.

Speaker 2: 8:37

So, anyways, I never had a problem with a parent through email, or, honestly, I would do that, that too, when we'd have parent teacher conferences. I do that too. I never had a parent, a problem with a parent, um and over. You know about 10 years of that, that's. That's pretty significant, because, you know, most teachers at some point have some sort of disagreement with, or conflict or something. Yeah, um, but it's that same feeling.

Speaker 2: 9:00

It's that same feeling about knowing, like I'll do a writing about something and I'll be asking myself, is that what I really should send? That's going to be bad, or you know. And then I kind of get in the zone, I write it and then I'm going about correcting and adjusting things, and then I'm always able to just say, okay, is this what I want to say? Is that right? And then I know the answer yes, this is right. Hit, send.

Speaker 2: 9:28

And so, is that right? And then I know the answer yes, this is right, hits them. And so that's the channeling, right, like that's a way of doing it. So, as she's talking about the writing part, the way that she's describing it to me, all I can think of is why would you write words when you can draw it? Because I'm a visual person, right, like I do draw, I did, I've done it a long time, um. Or create a piece of artwork, uh, but I think that's also a way of channeling people who get into artwork. It's just that I feel like it's a, it's inspiration for whatever you're creating.

Speaker 3: 9:59

I like your word inspiration.

Speaker 2: 10:02

Yeah, that's all. Yeah, with the with Wayne Dyers. I don't know if you've read in in his stuff, but yes, you know, one of the things that he talks about is in to inspire is to breathe in. So I think he was using at that point to talk about doing breath work to get connected, right, um, but yeah, to me it was. So we just had a conversation and and um, one thing I did notice, as she's talking about light language, and I noticed the lack of responses from from the group, whereas the group, most of the time the class that I'm in most of the time somebody has something to say, somebody has something to say, other people have jokes to make.

Speaker 2: 10:47

You know, there's always a little bit of conversation to go on. But here we are presented with making weird noises and all of a sudden we go quiet. I was one of them, because I don't have a problem talking, right, but I was like I'm not going to get on there and just make weird noises. And then she's talking about more and she's kind of describing how it feels to get these places. And then I was thinking about our elevate me now group. We do some of that qigong. And then qigong as she's describing what we're doing and you're doing it. Um, she does, she says a lot of things. Like like one of them, we um swing and um hit the like on the pet just sticks to the shoulder and then the back arm like flaps up and hits the back. Well, I mean, I don't know about you, but I was a squirmy kid and how many times was I told stop moving, stop wiggling. And half the time I'd be like swinging and doing that kind of stuff, yep and uh and so. So qigong is movement. But if you think about like, because the way that janelle leads that, is it the qigong that we do is you do things with intention, you imagine what's happening on an energetic level and then you just kind of get in this zone where you like play, so you exist in your body, but but you're not, you're not completely controlled by the mind and think about it Like well, kids. I'll even say I know for my kids I love to do this. My son doesn't do it so much, but my daughter does, and it could be that I just get her sounds better. I mean, I'm sure my son made noises, but they were probably like truck noises and loud you know, things that weren't that interesting to me. But my daughter will make noises. I mean she's 14, now almost 15, and she's always just made noises. So I actually I think I've mentioned this name before she's always made weird noises and we all learn to kind of like respond to her in a certain way.

Speaker 2: 12:40

So I noticed one time a couple of years ago she came home from school. My son had actually no wait, my daughter came home first. We had a brief conversation and we were in the living room and we weren't actually talking, but something happened and she made one of her normal noises. Now it wasn't English, it was just the noise, and I was sitting there so I observed it and to me it was just normal. That's just the noise, and I was sitting there so I observed it and to me it was just normal. That's just the noise you make when something like this happens or you feel like whatever you feel like I didn't have anything to say to her.

Speaker 2: 13:11

My son walked in in the door around the wall so he couldn't see anything. So he walked in from the garage and he heard this noise which, if I recall correctly, was a noise that would typically mean hey, come here, or something to that effect. He heard the noise and responded to her with words that make sense Okay, for something like hey, will you come here? But she didn't say that and I just found that really interesting that he just automatically responded to her as I would too. Okay, and I didn't realize that, you know, through time, as she was young, if she made noises sometimes I would just like make a noise back. You know like, okay, we just turn this into a conversation. That's not actually words, but that's just being in that space is what this woman was talking about.

Speaker 2: 14:03

Like you just get free to do that, but think about, you know, as a child, where, before seven, I say I've done tons of research. You know, we live in that hypnotic state where you know we really absorbing a lot of stuff. Maybe we're not giving the right responses, but we're absorbing everything that's going on. We're still having emotions, we're still processing things, but we're developing those subconscious patterns. And that, still having emotions, we're still processing things, but we're developing those subconscious patterns. And that's one of those things that we do.

Speaker 2: 14:30

And children are so easy, it's so easy for them to get in touch with god or whatever you want to call it right, and it's so natural, like it's completely natural, for them to be in a human body and also a spiritual being. Now, they don't know that they're a spiritual being. A lot of adults don't know that they're spiritual beings. But people who are in tune with spirituality, I think, are very aware that children are very connected, and so it just reminded me. It's like, really this is the stuff that children do, young children specifically.

Speaker 2: 15:04

And think about how many years have we been told as humans? Your voice is really important. So it's important that you stop talking at the right time, or you don't say those words or you say it this way. I mean, how long did we take language? Classes Right, so that we say it correctly. Classes right so that we say it correctly. So I can understand why it's difficult for a lot of people to just be okay with, you know, making random noises. I would assume that singers or musicians probably are freer with that, but they make those noises right.

Speaker 3: 15:39

They do that all the time you have to yeah, you know, I mean, you start out with oh actually I, I think I saw, I don't know how I got I missed.

Speaker 2: 15:52

Oh, a song came out, dolly parton song came up and I remembered how much I like it. So for some reason I got a little tangent looking at dolly parton and I was kind of wondering like how old is she and what's she doing? You know, woman's still singing like crazy.

Speaker 2: 16:03

I know I'm out there and looks amazing yeah absolutely and um, I saw one bit of information I was talking about, like what does she do every day? I've forgotten what it was. It was like I don't know, to keep her health up or something, something to keep her in a good space. One of the things she does is, um, she calls it some kind of praise. I'm sure it's, you know, cause she's very Christian, so it's some kind of like she's got Christian words that are associated with it. But but think about what that is Some kind of praise, that's. So she's using noise, she's making noise. She calls him yelling something. She kind of yells in the morning, so she uses her voice to express gratitude. And what else she was describing was she actually physically moves and you know, like all these. So she's in a state of gratitude, she's making noises, which is good for her physical body as well, and then, amidst these frequencies, there are nothing but love, like why would she not look fantastic, you know.

Speaker 3: 17:09

Absolutely Brilliant. That is yeah, you go Dolly, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:16

Yeah, so yeah, that's what we've been doing is the channeling work, and it's been really interesting to see how it comes and goes and how different people the upshot to this today for you is are you, are you interested in even doing it, doing the language, or not?

Speaker 2: 17:36

oh, the, the light language, you know, I don't know. I actually told her and I told jenny, I think it was like two times, and I know Sid today too, but like. So when you do this, you kind of it's very similar to Reiki, where you basically just get in the zone, whatever you want to call it, you just get in the zone. So I don't know you call in your anybody, any energy bodies that are there to help heal. You know, again, you're setting the same intention as for Reiki.

Speaker 2: 18:02

You know it's for it's for the best interest of all involved, and you know, and then a lot of times you like set the intention for, like, I asked her about writing and she said you know, setting intention is really important. So set the intention for whatever it is and then you just let noise come and, uh, she did it first. So she demonstrated it first, and Janelle does it every time we do Elevate Me Now. So, yes, I actually noticed one time. I don't know why I did this, but for some reason I just wanted to see if I could tune in and maybe feel the light language before she said it, and I noticed that I had about a maybe a one to three second. Um, I was able to receive the light language in my mind in the meditation about one to three seconds before. So that's short-term memory, but I was kind of hearing it in my mind and then just sitting there listening to her and I was noticing oh yeah, I got that right Like the noises that I was kind of thinking it would come into, then came out of her mouth, um, and the same thing happened today, when that I was kind of thinking it would come into then came out of her mouth. And the same thing happened today when that woman was was channeling. So I could I don't know, I think I this is a lot of the subconscious stuff where I am pretty particular about sounds that go around, like I don't like commercials on TV, I do not watch the news, I don't watch movies that are just I don't know, they give me the creeps. I don't listen to anybody who, I don't know how to describe it. Noise is really important to me.

Speaker 2: 19:37

So I remember being in high school and my boyfriend at the time had an old vehicle. It was like a I don't know if it was a 60s, I think it was 70s, but it didn't have any padding or insulation, so you're basically in a metal can and I was talking to him. We were on a relatively busy street I think we're on Monroe Street, tallahassee actually, which is one of the main drags, and we had the window down so I could hear some of the stuff outside. But I was trying to talk to him. I remember at one point hearing my voice and thinking that voice is really annoying, like the.

Speaker 2: 20:14

There's something about my voice that's just driving me and I would just quit talking. I just, you know, I quit talking and he was like what are you? Are you going to finish? And I was like tired to hear my voice, but it was because it was like bouncing off of the car and all the other noise. Yeah, so I don't know that I'm actually gonna. I don't know that I'm really gonna pursue that. I do find it interesting.

Speaker 3: 20:36

It's really just channeling and it's just a matter of how you want to do it I appreciate the, the descriptor, because our descriptions, because I I've heard that, I've heard this word years and years and years and I, I thought, when people start talking, I think, well, I've been doing this stuff, it always I, I guess I can't imagine, I mean, I don't know what it's like not to, and so I, I, you, you know, sometimes I just think, oh, you're just being weird and thinking you know everything, but I don't know.

Speaker 2: 21:13

I just do, oh, no, yeah, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 3: 21:17

So I hear these words and I'm thinking, oh wow, I mean I got some new information here today about all these different ways in which we communicate. And you know why? Wouldn't we also have the other world info too? If we're operating there, I mean if we're going through and within that and asking for assistance, we've got to be able to understand that somehow there's got to be an interpretation in some way, and so I like, why not? I mean, I don't have any trouble with that, I just know what people meant, because it sounds like something different than I, than I know. But I don't think so.

Speaker 2: 22:00

I think you're talking about channeling, like the word channeling just sounds like a word.

Speaker 1: 22:03

Yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 2: 22:05

I think it's like um well, it was funny because I was watching. Do you know who bashar is? I don't think so you know okay, so this guy's been.

Speaker 2: 22:17

there's a guy named daryl anka. Somebody said his name on car. I don't know how you say his last name, but he has been channeling this entity. I think language is so limiting. Anyways, they've named this energy body Bashar. He gave him that name. There's a reason he gave him that name. I think it means messenger, and he's been doing this for 50 or 51 years, like since 1973.

Speaker 2: 22:47

Okay, and um, if you listen to what Bashar says, I'll tell you I love his stuff because it is so straight to the point. It's very much like Janelle, like you know, uh, and I'm sure you're familiar, I'm sure you've been this person, I know you've been this person. It's probably why we connect. But, um, you know some people. You'll ask them a question and they'll give you an answer. And, um, sometimes people aren't ready to hear that answer, you know, and usually the answer that you give, if it's one of these answers, is not necessarily what the person wants to hear, but it's also not necessarily really actually brusque or anything. But I think a lot of people think it comes across as brusque because it's not the expected answer, right, yeah?

Speaker 3: 23:37

And there'susque because it's not the expected answer, right? Yeah, and there's no argument with it's clear exactly.

Speaker 2: 23:42

Okay, no argument like the answer that these people, when they channel and I know you've done it because you said this stuff too I've noticed um, when you you get the answer and the answer actually completely answers it. Like there's another one that channels name really famous and done it for a long time, and her name is, uh, abraham. No, her name is Esther Hicks and Abraham Hicks is the entity and she's a. She's a female, so the way that she presents it is a little more gentle. She's from Texas, so there's a little more I think she's from Texas. There's a little more like Southern charm kind of to her, whereas Daryl Inka I think he's from the Northeast.

Speaker 2: 24:25

I could be wrong, but he's a little more straightforward than the South Right. So I mean, that's the thing is that it's got to come through the person, so the person has their own life experience. So what they bring to the table is unique and anyways, it's the information that comes through. That's a channel is usually very much to the point. It can be just as short as one word. It can be a phrase. Most of the time it's not what you would have in conversation.

Speaker 2: 24:53

I actually have thought about maybe going to see either Bashar or go see Abraham Hicks and I like daydreamed a little bit about like, okay, what if I was one of those people that got called on to ask a question? Well, what question would I ask? And I've actually spent quite a bit of time thinking about these things and I've actually spent quite a bit of time thinking about these things and if I was genuinely in that space, I never really have a question and part of the reason is is that they start their channeling with the message Okay, and then they essentially entertain questions which oftentimes are like repeat questions. Like I know Daryl Inka has has been asked several times about alien um abduction or that that's what humans call it. Right, okay, and uh, you know it's not like it's the only time he's answered the question, but the one that I was watching.

Speaker 2: 25:49

Somebody was funny because somebody was asking this question about being abducted and what. Whatever other questions he had about it, my husband walks in there. I had this on the TV. My husband walks in the room and previously I might've like okay, you don't want to watch the show, I'm going to turn that off before you walk in the room, you know, was talking the guy asked the question.

Speaker 2: 26:19

The guy he was definitely not run the mill. He would not fit in a bank, let's put it that way. He wouldn't be dressed looking like that in a bank. Okay, so this guy is asking this question about being abducted and then they show the picture of Bashar or Daryl Ancock sitting in the chair. And he sits in the chair in a certain way I think he actually holds his hands a certain way and and then he, his eyes are closed because he's channeling, right, but he doesn't. He still has facial expressions and all that, but anyway. So my husband hears that alien question and then he sees Daryl Enka up there and he says to me, why are his eyes closed? And I said he's channeling. And I looked at him and I was like looked at him and I was like I can't even imagine what's going on. How crazy do you think this is, you know?

Speaker 3: 26:59

Um, yeah, I love it. Yeah, like what?

Speaker 2: 27:09

Oh boy, what's going on? What are you watching? Yeah, but I don't think it's any different than I mean like to people who are really connected, like, let's say, actually somebody in class today used this example. You've heard of speaking in tongues. Right, I do that. You do it. Then you're doing light language. I know that's what light language is. It's the same thing. And actually I was. I think I was less than 20. I went to I think it was.

Speaker 2: 27:35

My mother's cousin got married somewhere in Panama City Beach and my mother had like a traumatic experience with religious, like religion in general, so she was not interested in any of it, but she went to support her cousin and I went with her and so we drove down there and we get out and go to the church and it's this big, huge church I mean huge, like, not like a normal, like it was two floors right and there was this gigantic stage, just enormous, and um, and basically what they did was they had a service. So they had a service and they just happened to marry these two people while they were there and the service involved this guy talking about seeing scrolls above our head and they're golden and they're falling down, and at this point. I had no introduction whatsoever. I don't think to break here any of this energy work at all. So I was like, okay, the guy is seeing scrolls in the air and he had this whole elaborate story right.

Speaker 2: 28:33

And the meanwhile, of course, I've got in the back of my head. My mom is going bonkers. You know, like she, I can't believe we're staying for this. This guy is crazy. You know, like I don't see these girls. What's he talking about? You know like and uh, but and he didn't actually talk in tongues, but that it reminds me now. Like that's sort of what happens when you go through meditation. You have a, you have an image of something, but we don't necessarily say it outright because maybe people don't aren't ready to receive that.

Speaker 3: 28:58

Maybe they're sitting over there like me thinking, okay, the guy's crazy you can check in with that when that happened, yeah, no, yes, now's the time.

Speaker 2: 29:06

No, yeah, right, well, in that situation that wasn't. Yeah, I I think the people, other people that were there, that was their church and that was they were used to that. Yeah, I had a friend who who got involved I think it was a Pentecostal church, I think they're the ones that do the top and this. She had this other friend come and the the friend who visited just was like completely freaked out.

Speaker 2: 29:36

Like really hard on somebody who called me and told me all this stuff that was happening. And and then now my friend is telling me that if I don't go do this thing, probably something like you're gonna go to hell. I don't know something like that. She was just really scared, you know, but it's the same kind of thing, yeah.

Speaker 3: 29:54

Yeah, Well, and when that energy comes, because the energy comes with it. And if you have never experienced energy in any kind, or maybe you've experienced it but you haven't been aware of it, but when that floods in there and it floods with that, when it floods in it's big and it's strong and it's powerful, and so it can be real scary indeed yeah, and also actually, now that you say that, I don't know if I've said this to you before, but something I noticed in the last I don't know seven months or something.

Speaker 2: 30:35

So I'm relatively newly married and my husband and I still are goofy with each other, right, but there's like this, there's this shift that we know that we're going to be messing around like harassing each other or saying something stupid or whatever, and there's a shift and I can sense it. I know it's happening and what I noticed is because we have so many dogs and the dogs are always around us that before anybody actually says or physically does anything, the energy shifts. The dogs start going bonkers because they want to play right Like it's it's a playful energy.

Speaker 2: 31:18

So they start barking like crazy. And my husband's that's day and I was like you, you notice how the dogs do that. Every time we're, we're gonna mess around with each other and it's silly and playful. And and he's like, yeah, I've noticed. I'm like that's the energy shifting, like it doesn't. We don't have to say anything. They don't understand what we're saying, you know it doesn't even matter to them.

Speaker 3: 31:36

That's that same kind of language that you're talking about. Yes, to the dogs, but they know intention and they know, they sense this happens over and over. So this is when we do this, this, this, and when we do this. Yeah, they. They may those might just be sounds to them, but they know what those sounds intend.

Speaker 2: 32:01

Yeah, I don't know if you know this either, but Janelle's husband is basically a dog whisperer.

Speaker 3: 32:08

That's what you guys were saying. I made the mistake of saying two animals came off her chair.

Speaker 2: 32:17

Yeah, I know how cool is that it is really cool and she's, she's. So he, basically he does energy work with animals, specifically dogs, um, so he'll help people figure out why the behaviors change or how to train the. He does dog training, like it's super, like actually he's going to the internet I don't know what world championship. So I think he's going, yeah, he's going this year to Italy with his dog to compete. I don't know exactly what it is. They just basically have new tricks and they respond to things and so his dogs are amazingly trained.

Speaker 2: 32:51

So they, they did this for a long time and I think they I don't know if they did it with other people or I'm kind of confused about how they did it, but he's a dog whisperer. So we occasionally talk about dogs and things and she talks about how you don't actually have to talk to the dogs. You just set the intention. So, like he will, he will, um, think I go get this thing for me I don't know what it is, you know like the newspaper, or you know my shoes or something like that and his dog would just go get it. Like it doesn't have to be an oral thing, it doesn't have to be a physical thing.

Speaker 3: 33:29

It's an energetic thing, wow. And what's kind of interesting is you got smart dogs and you got dumb, got dumb dogs. You know, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, don't get it. They're just like the rest of us. They could be either way either, or or anything in between, but it's kind of funny to have that too, in your head.

Speaker 2: 33:47

Yeah, I think though that well, you know, one time too I they say that about all animals. Right, like animals can sense energy, we can too. We just don't know that we're doing that.

Speaker 3: 33:59

No, remember that whole culturally created thing.

Speaker 2: 34:02

Yes, yep, you're right.

Speaker 3: 34:03

That damaging. By the time you're seven, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 34:08

Out of you. I can't remember being on a walk. This is shortly after my husband died, so I think it was June. My husband died, so I think it was June. My husband died in March and it was in June.

Speaker 2: 34:23

I took the kids on a trip and I went to go see friends. So it was at a friend's house in Louisiana and I decided to go on a walk. I think it was a walk, maybe it was a bike ride, I don't know, but I went down the road and she lived down the country. I went down the road and I turned down another road just to see what it was, and down this road was a house that had a horse in the front yard and it was a big yard. So this horse was just, you know, going around doing its stuff and I was just really honestly noticing how beautiful the space was. There was lots of shade, so it wasn't hot and it was just really peaceful. Wasn't a lot of people around and I was just really enjoying that.

Speaker 2: 34:56

And I noticed the horse and I thought to myself, oh, I wish she would come closer, it would be so pretty. And do you know what happens? I go past the horse, I go down a little bit farther. I turn around, come back and the horses come up to this, to the edge by me, and the horse was clearly looking at me and um, so I was looking back at it and I was kind of like having thoughts. I mean I must have been doing energy stuff, but I was thinking about certain things like talking to the horse sort of and energy yeah. But I think I thought a thought that would. That would be like okay, now your turn. And then the horse like nodded at me and then made a noise and like jumped its feet and so forth, and I was like I think that thing is actually talking to me yeah, yeah, that is so cool.

Speaker 3: 35:44

I gotta move over to another chair. That's right. That is so cool, that's a wonderful story, and that would be a wonderful story to put in some kind of a a talk that you give on.

Speaker 2: 35:56

Yeah well, it definitely stuck with me. I mean, I, I certainly remember it well, and, and why wouldn't it be?

Speaker 3: 36:04

why wouldn't it? I mean, the horses is getting it.

Speaker 2: 36:09

No, no, you're getting it well and I didn't know anything about that because at that point I I still had never taken reiki. Yeah well, I mean, reiki gave me the language right to actually have conversations about it, but uh, I hadn't still not taken Reiki at all like I was. I was probably three or no four, like four years out from that easily yeah, no, that's pretty neat.

Speaker 3: 36:37

Yeah, it's usually. It's usually when that rush of energy comes in that we kind of go, oh, and back off, you know?

Speaker 2: 36:46

you know what I mean yeah, I do and I think, um, okay, I think art, learning art like I did really actually has helped a lot, because when you are learning art and I don't mean like just making the piece, especially when you are learning art, and I don't mean like just making the piece, especially when you learn to critique you start to become more aware of things and acknowledge the things that people kind of tend to forget. Because as I went into the work world after I had my art degree, I would ask people questions about something, right, and I would kind of be asking okay, can you please point out to me what you're talking about, like where on this piece of artwork do you not like it? Or where in this writing do you not like it? Or how do you feel about it, or you know. But those are actually skills that you develop when you learn how to critique, and one of those things you do is you, the first thing you do, is you kind of describe what it is you're looking at.

Speaker 2: 37:42

Okay, so I'm going to say you know, let's say that it's a flat piece of artwork and it's in a rectangle, you might say in the upper right corner, where there's a big, a relatively large red circle that kind of has this black squiggly line coming out the left side, right. So you're using words that are describing where on the in the box does the person look? What kind of shapes do you see, what colors they are? You know what type of line they are. You're using words to describe what you see and then you talk about how you feel about it or what it makes you think about or whatever, and I think that most people don't do that, like, I think they're not comfortable with saying the red circle in the top right corner, and the thing is that that actually helps people the other person you're talking to understand what you're looking at, to get the vibe, whereas if you just talk about how you feel about it or how would you think about it, the other person may be thinking something entirely different and they're not seeing what you're saying because they're not connecting with whatever part. It is Right.

Speaker 2: 38:48

And so I think that, actually, art school actually makes you have to figure out how to channel, because you're creating bizarre artwork and you're like, ok, I've done this hard, now I don't know what to do. Ok, well, you know what you do. You take a deep breath, you walk away. You try and you literally think about clearing the canvas, so you completely try and blink it out. You turn around with your eyes closed and then ask the question. And then you open your eyes, you look at the artwork and you get the answer. It happens every single time. So in a way, that's channeling too. That's like setting your intention, cleaning out the excess, the monkey mind, the chatter, and just asking the question and being open to the answer.

Speaker 3: 39:34

It's the same thing as channel that's interesting because I have a young man who was a former student and he sends me his preachings. He'd like to be a teacher and he was sending them to me. I haven't done very good by him this year, but for the last couple of years I would go over them. The first time I'd just do a read through, yeah, get the feel for where he wanted to go with it, and then and then I would begin building in there the critique Excellent point. Move this paragraph to the first. You know if you're opening it up for your, for your audience, are you, are you aiming it at everybody in the audience? You know, or is this a specific group? But I mean excellent work.

Speaker 3: 40:25

I don't have to agree with him. That isn't my purpose in critiquing. My purpose in critiquing is to help him give the best message he has planned to give, and that's what I'm looking for in it. And then just a little bit of rearrangement and a lot of kudos, because it's pretty awesome that he's doing it and he's just a young, young man, maybe 30. And he has this calling and he has this deep heart need and he isn't able to go for school, he isn't able to do some of those things yet and I don't know if he ever will. He isn't able to do some of those things yet and I don't know if he ever will, but he's, you know, maybe he will. But in the meantime he's putting a file cabinet together of preachings on so many subjects and it surprises me because he's moving in very conservative circles. He's moving in very conservative circles but he has these really open approaches to what he wants to say and I just look at that and I'm thinking you go, man, you go, that's good.

Speaker 2: 41:45

Well, I think you were just touching on the fact that when the energies are really intense, that's when people will, when people will get like. I mean, I'm sure it was when my friend went to the the church there's a speaking in tongues, and then add to that that my other friend was like basically trying to guilt her into to going to and my the first friend that visited never went to church like it wasn't a thing.

Speaker 2: 41:57

I mean, I think her mother was catholic, her father I don't know that he did anything. He wasn't heavily like. I mean, he did a funny statement.

Speaker 3: 42:09

He did stuff, it wasn't with church. He didn't do anything. My Irish mother, blunt mother, would say oh, your father isn't anything. He was very Catholic, but he wasn't anything.

Speaker 2: 42:22

Right, ok, so that's kind of what it was like she was catholic, she didn't go all the time, but she was catholic and still had those values and um, and he just like that, it just wasn't anything, and so they didn't really push it on. The kids, um, I'm sure that there were some teachings and like come from their parents as children, but, um, yeah, no, she just like I'm not kidding you, she was in tears, I remember this, and she was in high school. We were in high school, right, um, but it says it's those intense energies, and the reason I said all that about the art was that one of the things is that you, when you're taught, when you're critiquing, when you're just discussing the success or the lack of success in a piece, a particular piece of artwork, you're always going to draw upon what they call the principles of design. So that's like contrast, movement, focus, it's it's just certain qualities that make a piece of artwork better. Okay, and one of the one of those things there's contrast.

Speaker 2: 43:22

So, as I've gone through this experience, learning what energy is and I've had many conversations with many people, but also a lot with you, about what energy is and how do you tell it is all right. The main thing I noticed is that you know people want to. They want to answer this like right or wrong, they want to yes or no, they want a math answer. But, like um, one of the people in my my specific channeling group which is just two other people learning and then the guy teaching she gets uh, sometimes she'll get like sensations on her body and, um, a couple of times ago ago she was just describing what the sensations were, which absolutely were not answering the question that was asked. But, like um, this time I asked a question and she said I'm getting this tingling in my lips, like, okay, well, I don't know what that means, you know, like other than having a tingling in your books, right? So, um, well, I love it, yeah, so then I actually somebody else had a conversation with me earlier about crystals and we were talking about, like I had gotten this crystal grounded or cleared, or I forgot which program I think they call it, and that was last Saturday, and I went home after that and I had one of the crystals in my pocket and then, um, I don't know if we were going to go do something. I think we're going to go to the grocery store and Joe is talking to his daughter.

Speaker 2: 44:52

We were in the garage and I reached in my pocket Cause I was like, oh yeah, like crystals in there. I reached in my pocket and grabbed the crystal, I was like Holy cow, that was really hot. And I reached in my pocket and grabbed the crystal. I was like holy cow, that was really hot and it was a little cool outside. So I walked up to him and said, can you feel how hot this is? And of course it had been out in my hand and I thought it might be losing heat like this, but you know it's still warm. And he takes it and he's like no, I can't tell that's not warm.

Speaker 2: 45:14

And it was like way hotter than it would have been even just sitting in my pocket okay I got it yeah so yeah it's an energy and the reason I sense it is because I'm sensitive to that, whereas my husband wasn't quite as sensitive, right um, and then the same guy who's talking to me about the crystals. He was like you know. Oftentimes, you know, particles are moving faster. It kind of indicates a higher frequency. Usually you would associate that with being warmer, but I don't think that's always the case.

Speaker 3: 45:44

I think some people actually feel colder. Well, it depends on what you need.

Speaker 2: 45:47

Absolutely, and here's my comment about that. It's a difference, that's all that matters. It doesn't matter if it's going up or it's going down, because it's not more correct to be hotter or be higher or anything like that. It's just that you're noticing that is actually changing and that means you're sensing it and that's what happens in reiki.

Speaker 3: 46:08

when I give a reiki, yeah, yeah, well, I feel things, but so does, so does the other person, and what they may not feel. I've had people say, oh, your hands are so hot, and I'm thinking, okay, good, I'm glad. But that wasn't what I sensed.

Speaker 2: 46:25

Exactly.

Speaker 3: 46:27

And then other times I'm thinking they're roaring. And how was your session?

Speaker 2: 46:30

Oh, so good, I'm so glad to hear you say that, because I think a lot of people, you know, I think humans kind of get on that at in our culture now. They kind of get on like what makes it better, what makes it correct, or you know my hands got so hot and you know like okay well.

Speaker 3: 46:49

I had one students, um, I, I worked with her, I I separated out her Reiki one and her Reiki two and when I looked at her history with Reiki, she had been a Reiki master for a long time and never connected with it. Oh yeah, jump all the hoops. And I don't know. I mean she had I don't know how many symbols given to her. I mean there were, it was an inordinate amount of symbols. I said I don't know what kind of Reiki you have, I don't know. So if you're going to be a part of the master program that I offer, then you need to take Reiki one and two from me first. And the thing is, she just was always very confused by when we would meet, because she didn't feel things. And so when I saw this history on her, I thought we've got to approach this altogether different. And I did with her. And so we did a Reiki one. We did part of it in one morning and the next afternoon we did the rest of it, and then, a couple of weeks later, I did it the same way with the Reiki two and it opened it all up for her, all of it. And then, a couple of weeks later, I did it the same way with the Reiki too, and it opened it all up for her, all of it, and it was such a relief to her.

Speaker 3: 48:08

But one of the things that you know, you get in a group and people are just human, right, and this one is saying, oh, my hands get so hot, hot, and they stay so hot and they still feel it, and all this.

Speaker 3: 48:25

And then this poor woman was just trying to get through, through whatever it is we're doing, is thinking I never get anything. You know, a comparison and an immature thing that we do, but but it happens. Trying to figure the thing out, well, I remember one time she turned to that lady. She was just so irritated she said it doesn't matter whether you feel anything or not, but in her case it did matter, in that she had all this training I didn't know she had and it hadn't activated, and I don't know why, um, unless she was in a competitive environment where she was comparing herself and coming out short because it's gonna block you, you and I. When I did the training, I did her all alone. I had another master come in, who she knows, and so she had another voice too, but she didn't, she didn't have to feel that she was in an environment where she was having to be in competition Cause I think that's interesting.

Speaker 2: 49:45

Yeah, well, mean, I think that's common, for I mean, I even think on some levels sometimes I hear people honestly it's it's just when they kind of go on a tangent and they just go, go, go, go go, and they're never looking for really any feedback, they're just kind of announcing what it is they're doing and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but it's like, oh, my hands were so hot and all this was happening and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah dah. And it's like, yeah, it really is kind of discrediting anybody who doesn't feel like that, but it doesn't mean that that person isn't feeling that way and it there is no more correctness to doing it. You know, having hot hands or having cold hands or it doesn't matter, none of that actually matters no, not none of it, not any of it matters.

Speaker 3: 50:30

What matters is did the healing take place you were seeking or, if it, what other healing did take place? Because reiki goes and does what Reiki darn well pleases. We're not in control, and that's that's the hardest part to learn, I think uh, I think it is.

Speaker 2: 50:50

But I think you know something too that I think is um, actually there's, oh, this is a whole new bag of worms.

Speaker 2: 50:58

So I know I've said this to you before. We've had conversations about this, because I say to anybody I get a chance to, given that I was not raised in a very heavily religious influenced home when people throw out words like the devil or whatever I don't know all the words, but all the words that mean like really bad things are going to come and get you or whatever they're going to do. Okay, I have a hard time with those things and actually heard Bashar kind of answer this. I'm going to let whoever wants to look that up look it up on their own. But it didn't ever really make sense to me, especially when I hear when I learned through Reiki and the description of what Reiki is and I'm so in sync with it, and it's like and then it's like, oh, what about all these negative things? Like, okay, well, that wasn't my intention at all, so I don't know why we have to go there. Um, but if you have your intention completely set on the highest good for all, then that's what happens.

Speaker 3: 52:05

There isn't any interference. If you place all that protection around you, it's going to go.

Speaker 2: 52:14

Well, even the idea of protection, okay. So there have been comments in our group, honestly too, about this protection. So if there's a need for protection, then that's agreeing that there's negative or lower or whatever I'm going to call it energies that could come in and infiltrate. Actually, bashar actually answered this. I watched this last weekend and, um, the way he addressed it. I really loved it because it was essentially like, if you are allowing so-called negative energy to come into your space, it's because you're allowing your frequency to go down, right. So essentially, you're not holding it up there, which is normal. People have that, like it just happens, and I think the protection is a good practice to get into. But if you can just genuinely be in that space of exuding love for all, then the idea is that you don't have that. But as humans, we go back and forth, we come back and we think to ourselves well, I'm not feeling anything.

Speaker 2: 53:14

I must be doing something bad or something wrong, or I'm not doing it right, I'm not good enough.

Speaker 3: 53:18

whatever these words are that, then lower your your frequency but we work with people who do that all the time oh yeah no, and that's that's where I assure them they are protected yeah well, I think it's important.

Speaker 2: 53:34

I think it, it does make a big difference, and I mean even aligning the chakras.

Speaker 3: 53:38

So many different places with an understanding about the word spirituality. Like you know, I asked you today let's go with this channeling. I would like to understand better what it's, how it's used, because I guess I was thinking it was one thing and I was missing the point.

Speaker 2: 53:57

What were you thinking it was? I'm curious.

Speaker 3: 53:59

I don't know. People said channeling, and so I just figured it was a way, it was something that was coming through the person, but I didn't know what and and that they had that thing that was coming through and and so I just didn't know what it was.

Speaker 3: 54:22

Well, it's just it's it's, it's, it's simply our spiritual experiences that we're tuned into and they, they talk to us. Yeah, but I didn't get that. I mean, I thought it was a theme oh, like something, like the calling something in and it's kind of part of them well, I'm not even sure, because it seems like people who use the word channel are ones who have found out something when they were a child, and then they had this second site. In a particular way, that would only be channeling.

Speaker 2: 55:12

I'm curious to hear more.

Speaker 3: 55:14

That's about as good as I can give it, because I don't know, but now I understand that we all have it.

Speaker 2: 55:23

Yes, we do. I don't know, but now I I understand that we all have it.

Speaker 3: 55:26

Yes, are we looking?

Speaker 2: 55:26

we do, I mean, I didn't know, oh, oh, actually that brings up. So that's another thing, another, another reason why I don't usually harp on um, the negative energy, so much is that. This is one way I would say I can tell if somebody's channeling per se. The messages are just like Reiki messages they're negative, they're never negative Like, they're never judgmental, they're never hurtful, they're never too much for the person to hear, they're always just the perfect amount and they're always, if you want to say preaching, they're always preaching love. So they're essentially the. They're in alignment with the frequency of Reiki. It just happens to come through whatever it is. So that's a huge indicator of what it actually is, which is, you know, funny, with the, my husband walking in the room with the guy asking about being an alien or whatever, being with an alien or whatever, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, I well, I still see it in my head and space like, oh Lord, should I turn this stuff off?

Speaker 3: 56:31

You know, but um, my kids have always been around me, you know, and no, they're my boys and uh, and it isn't that they aren't, uh, believers in in that other world. They are, they there isn't. There isn't one of them that doesn't have that sense of being connected there. Okay, but they, but they've always been around me and hand me the phone. It's one of yours.

Speaker 2: 57:10

One of yours. What do you mean?

Speaker 3: 57:12

It means the person is only for me because of the way I interact with other people. But there's this they're very patient when I'm talking about something, because I don't, it's not anything, it's a big secret and it'll be like mom, I hear you. But when it comes down to something that's very important to them, like when their father was dying and their sister showed up in my bedroom on Second Avenue North, over here, and I'm putting away my underclothes and I say hi, jack, what are you doing here? You know, because she's on the other side and I hadn't seen her for a long time. And she said oh, I was just in the neighborhood, so I stopped by to let you know I'm here for dad.

Speaker 3: 58:00

I said, well, that's a good thing, cause Sean tells me he's having trouble leaving and that he's, he thinks he's afraid. And she said, well, I'll be right there when he's, when he's ready to go. And I said because they were best buds. Yeah, and Don were best buds anyway, but I thought it was so funny because she says I was in the neighborhood.

Speaker 2: 58:25

Dawn was dying in Billings. That was terrifying. How far away was that from you?

Speaker 3: 58:27

physically, I mean, it was like an instant for her. I was in the neighborhood, you know, but when I told the boys, you know, that she had come and that she was going to be there, they, all of them, were comforted by that. And Jeremy the oldest, who is probably the well, he's the military boy that can tell you a little something. But he said, mom, can I tell dad? I said yeah, but it might, maybe you don't want to mention it came from.

Speaker 2: 58:58

Yeah, yeah, I do find it interesting when, when people are really kind of pushed or something that is really important to them, they're willing to go to that spiritual side yeah, and, and that side is the side they know it's it's the catholic side.

Speaker 3: 59:11

You know that, that whole. You know, when we talk about spirit guides and all of that, that see how? That's all my life, it's the same. There isn't a saint out there that isn't assigned a particular job, and so you pray these little prayers for them to intercede for you from their side, but you ask them, you don't. I mean it's the same thing with Reiki. You ask for the help on the other side because they will not move unless you invite them in. They always listen to your uh, will and uh, and I've always known that. I mean, yeah, when at first I was hearing all about spirit guides and I thought, huh, wonder how, I wonder what that means. I mean this whole boogly, boogly world. It finally makes some sense. I mean it's taking me my lifetime, but I've only been around Reiki for 20 years, but I have all of this background that has told me all about spirit guides.

Speaker 2: 1:00:25

Yeah Well, I find it interesting to kind of pay attention to when the human part of us start to have an effect, because you know, humans, we are taught this linear idea of time and you know right from wrong and all that kind of stuff, and it has to fit in this little box. The spirit world is not like that, it's not limited like that.

Speaker 3: 1:00:53

No, yeah, and you know what we claim to know about, especially about the other side.

Speaker 2: 1:01:00

Well, I don't think we even have enough imagination to understand what it really is actually, um, as we were talking about channeling earlier today, but also I've always kind of felt this. I actually had another person just hypnosis. I was talking with her, she did my first hypnosis session and she's actually written a children's book. And I don't remember what the children's book is about, but it's essentially it really is telling the story of the interconnectedness, the oneness idea, the oneness principle, okay, and it's a beautiful little story and of course, I just I don't think she's published it yet. Like we talked about it.

Speaker 2: 1:01:42

It I was going to illustrate it for her but she decided to go to MSU and go to um, go get a psychology degree, so and she's got little kids and things, so she's busy. But, um, as I'm reading it, I'm like this is exactly what needs to be said and how wonderful is it that it be presented to children in this way. Right, and if you, if you really think about it, I, I really think any creative venture it doesn't really matter what you're creating any creative venture where you're connected in that way, you're still going to have traces of that, okay, I mean, yeah, it's got any any depth to it at all yeah, and so, um, and that's kind of what I'm, what I'm drawn towards.

Speaker 2: 1:02:27

So I guess what I would say you know earlier when I said don't listen to news or whatever um, the stuff that I'm interested in watching and learning about is stuff that's connected in that way. It's connected to love, it's connected to presenting information in that way. It's connected to love, it's connected to presenting information in a way that opens people's minds instead of shutting them down with fear, right? So if it's fear-based, I'm not interested. But if you think about it, I mean you can find any number of music or movies or artwork or any dance, anything that inspires people and that is connected. Whatever they did to create that.

Speaker 3: 1:03:04

That is a a channeled experience for people I love your word inspiration, because that that's probably the best descriptor I have taken away taking away from today for channeling. Yeah, it's inspiration. Yeah, thank you, that's a good way to describe it inspired, to do whatever you do For channeling.

Speaker 2: 1:03:21

Yeah, it's inspiration. Yeah, thank, you for that. That's a good way to describe it. Inspired to do whatever you do.

Speaker 1: 1:03:31

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