Astrological Guidance for Recurring Struggles

Blaire Stanislao: 0:01

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Anneliese Swingle: 0:26

Last three nights I've had nightmares about believe it or not suppression towards me and trying to be controlled. Two nights were about my former husband and then last night it was about me always wanting to do something and trying and being controlled by the other. And, holy cow, you wake up so frustrated and angry and you're trying to figure out what is this trying to tell me? So, of course, I look to the stars, right. Where is my Pluto? Where is Mars? Why am I trying to fight in my sleep? What is this trying to tell me? And it's always interesting to see what you uncover. So I'm looking at every day. I'm trying to say what is this really about? So, of course, for me, pluto and the sun is in my first house, okay, Like that's in your birth chart.

Anneliese Swingle: 1:34

Yeah, Well, in the transit, not in my birth chart in the transit in the sky today.

Anneliese Swingle: 1:41

The sun and Pluto are both in the first house and of course they're triggering. Well, it's so funny. They're triggering looks like Mars in one-on-one relationship, so that kind of makes sense. Obviously, my former husband and I had to work through a lot of things to get through the divorce right and there was a lot of me just not knowing who I was and not being able to stand in my own power and that's kind of a theme in my life with my sexual partners because I have a lot of eighth house stuff in there and it plays out with control. They're always telling me how to think, how to act, how I should be, and what my lesson is is me standing in my own power and knowing how I think, not dependent on what my sexual partner says I should think, say or do. So I just find it interesting. Every single time I have a dream I'm like, oh, I got to look and see what's going on in the sky. What is this really about?

Blaire Stanislao: 2:56

Well, also, you should consider. I mean, I'd be happy to help you with that. But, like I'm learning dream interpretation and I have to tell you this is it's definitely on the level with hypnosis for me. I mean, the first time I did hypnosis I was like, oh, this is the coolest stuff in the world, I want to do this forever. Right, like immediately before the first session was even over. And the dream interpretation I didn't. I wouldn't say I initially felt like that. I knew I wanted to do it, but not until I had some, a couple of dreams interpreted and I wouldn't say that was like an immediate response. It was like to me it was even more profound than the hypnosis, because you have the dream, you write down what it's about, you come up with your own words and what happens is, as you write it down, the imagery becomes stronger. You remember it more. Okay, you had absolutely no influence with this person in interpreting your dream. Okay, Right.

Blaire Stanislao: 3:55

And you get this dream interpretation and then as much as we want to deny because with the work that we do, for the most part people want to deny like even I want to deny, like yeah, no, that's not right, that can't be right Because we're diving into that subconscious, right, exactly. And the thing is, when it's a dream, it's not like you've been put under and hypnosis, it's not like you had a conversation before. No, you just went to sleep.

Anneliese Swingle: 4:23

Except you're asleep and awake in state.

Blaire Stanislao: 4:25

Yeah and and so the end of the stuff that comes out like he said stuff to me and I was like what? I don't really understand that. But then there were a few things and I was like, oh yeah, that's because of you know, this is what happened, you know, when I was younger or whatever, and but it was really. It was really hard for me to kind of adjust to that, but in that same vein it is, it's really profound. So I mean, I think you'll find it in this, in the astrology anyways. Right, it's gonna be there.

Blaire Stanislao: 4:52

Of course, everything Personal, yeah, on a more personal level, I think you know, if you look at dreams, you actually, if you're looking at the symbolism, you'll actually start to recognize, oh well, this is. You know, if you kind of learn, this is what these kinds of things mean, that kind of thing. Like Last night with my dream, like I don't I don't really know exactly. I haven't finished interpreting it, I'm not like I didn't write it down. I woke up and started trying to find supplements that would help. But you know something about iron.

Anneliese Swingle: 5:26

No, I always write my dreams down and I did take a dream interpretation course and I know all of the people or Animals or whatever is coming out in your dream are extensions of ourselves. Yes, and they they can't say well, annalisa's married to Annalisa, so they put the ex-husband in there, right, so they can help you. It's always about trying to resolve something and, professionally, I'm working on a lot of things right now and I know, I'm pretty sure that's what it's about, because Sometimes a Person dreams there will be a, an event that happened that day. This is what happens to me anyway, and I'll actually have a dream kind of about that, but there was no association with my former husband throughout the week or throughout the day that triggered it. So I know it has to be Me working on a project for for my career.

Anneliese Swingle: 6:24

You know that I've been working on for a long time and you know how you come up with obstacles and then you have to troubleshoot. You have to do that so that I really think that's the connection and Kind of the guidance on how to problem solve. What are you trying to fix? What are you trying to work out? What are you? How are you feeling controlled? Well, when you're working with technological situations in work where that's not my forte and you have to reach out for help, I feel controlled.

Blaire Stanislao: 6:56

Ah, I'm just like ah Well, you know we did, I know we did record this. I'm not sure it might be actually going live today, but you know, we had a conversation where I was irritated at my husband, for we were having an argument about dishes, right. Yeah, that was like a snowball of a whole bunch of things and eventually I did some work where for me, writing is a way to get it out and so I realized I was really angry and I just essentially wrote it all out and then I came to the realization through that that it was the same issue. It's like about being controlled.

Blaire Stanislao: 7:34

Of course it's not about the dishes, right, it's about how you feel when somebody says or does something to you, absolutely. But then the question is why do you? Why does it bother you? Why does it? Why do you even feel that way? Right? But I didn't even recognize that. Those and actually the irritation two nights ago it was something similar and I was asking myself well, so why does this behavior from this person bother me? Because it does. It wouldn't normally bother me, right, but it's bothering me right now.

Blaire Stanislao: 8:06

And so it. But it does. It goes back to those, those core issues of why do you feel like you're controlled? So in astrology so for people who don't know astrology Pluto is deep transformation. You add in whatever you want, but it's deep, deep transformation. It's the kind of stuff that we talk about on this podcast all the time. It's the stuff that's difficult, it's never a pleasurable experience to go through, but it always does result in transformation.

Blaire Stanislao: 8:37

And Mars is an action energy. So it's like go, how do you take action wherever your Mars is right? So if you've got, basically we all have resistance to transformation because that's the thing that makes you feel comfortable, right? Yes, so if you're taking action most of the time, especially if you're kind of in your programmed behavior or programmed way, you're not gonna be taking action in a way that helps you transform, because that's not what's comfortable, right? So those two energies deep transformation and action are oftentimes not seen harmoniously right, which is kind of interesting because, like in my birth chart I have Pluto in the first house. So that's like I'm kind of comfortable with that right, like I've been that way my whole life. I will always be that way. But when you see it through transit. It's a very distinct change from, maybe, the way that you normally operate, and then you've got this transformation in this area of your life. Yes, yeah.

Anneliese Swingle: 9:49

And then it flavors. It's flavored by the, it's with Capricorn energy. So it's very career in my mind, career oriented, because Saturn rules Capricorn and so-.

Blaire Stanislao: 10:07

So I didn't look. Is it in Capricorn now?

Anneliese Swingle: 10:09

Yeah, it's in Capricorn right now, and so it's because it's in the first house, which is the house of I am. Who am I. You know who am I according to me, not what society says I'm supposed to be. So I think, when you can look at the bigger picture of, like the dream, for instance, where you're feeling suppressed I mean that's what Saturn does, that's Capricorn energy too, and then you put it with Pluto, you really got some stuff to work through, oh my gosh.

Blaire Stanislao: 10:44

Well, you know it's interesting. I kind of want to pull this in because I obviously something that I kind of I'm not gonna say I struggle with anymore, but I definitely struggled with at the beginning of studying astrology. But it was the first big Halt for me studying astrology. It was like how do you pick? Do you use tropical? Do you side real? You know, yeah, all the settings right. And so for me at that point I was like, okay, astrology is math. You know, one plus one is always two. It doesn't equal 2.2 sometimes, right.

Blaire Stanislao: 11:15

But the ironic thing about this occult stuff is that in fact it really does work. It doesn't matter if it's in your calculations or my calculations, it does work. And so I just want to want to say so I use side real and whole sign and I pulled up your chart and I've got the transits on there and Pluto is in Capricorn. So, like side real versus tropical, sometimes it'll. It's usually about 23, 24 degrees off at this point in history and so it's not always in the same one. So I don't really usually get into a conversation about it being in a particular Sign, because I'm always like, yeah, well, is it inside real tropical? Because maybe it's not that.

Anneliese Swingle: 11:50

No, you're exactly right. I mean, but it, but the, the energy and the feeling is all the same, no matter which it is Platform to use, because I'm looking, mine is in Placidus, that's what I'm using, oh wow, I Just wanted to say that you're in.

Blaire Stanislao: 12:06

in my calculation on my, my computer system, it has Pluto in the second house, which actually is all about earned income, right? So yeah, and resources, or?

Anneliese Swingle: 12:16

Yeah, so it's the same thing, right? That's so funny. Yeah, that is so funny yeah career.

Blaire Stanislao: 12:23

Exactly yeah, you're in Mars is opposing it. So yeah, yeah.

Anneliese Swingle: 12:29

Yeah, and I have looked at it in whole house. I've looked at it in different ways and it all says the same thing. It just says it different ways. So however you want to look at it, you still come to the same conclusion. That's why astrology is so cool, because I personally don't think, oh, one, one platform is better than the other. I think they're all different, they all serve different purposes, but basically they're gonna say the same thing, no matter how you know.

Blaire Stanislao: 12:56

I totally agree, and even I think that's how you figure out if something is really true, because if it's it's, it's almost like just me. To me it's like just meeting different people. People say different things in different ways, or they even say the same thing that they say in a different way.

Anneliese Swingle: 13:10

Yeah and it doesn't really matter.

Blaire Stanislao: 13:12

You know, if you've got somebody who's Super emotional right and they say it in an emotional way and you've got somebody who's very factual, If you're looking at the content of what it really means, it can mean exactly the same thing. It just comes across in a different way.

Anneliese Swingle: 13:26

Yeah, yep, that's. And then you say, well, that's, I just got triggered. Well, if you can hold space and just look at it that way, you'd never be triggered ever. Yeah with anything.

Blaire Stanislao: 13:38

I'm no kidding, that's the goal, right.

Anneliese Swingle: 13:42

That's the ultimate goal, but that's not even human.

Blaire Stanislao: 13:45

We were just talking about that. So, uh, I was just having, we had our little group meeting and we we were talking about somebody doing some energy work. She was doing emotion code and she was a little frustrated because it's like, you know, it's kind of like a never-ending story, like here's another emotion and another emotion. And we got to clear all this and like where is the end of the story? And I said to her well, you know, there's there's a point at which you get to where you say how much of the story around the energy do I need to know? Like, because people like stories, right, it's just a matter of how much of the story you need or want.

Blaire Stanislao: 14:24

And I I just said you know, like it kind of depends on where you are in your healing journey. Are you wanting to know the story in the background? Do you want to know about your past lives? Do you want to know about what, whatever else, the name of an energy or something like that or do you just want to heal it? Because if you just want to do it, it doesn't have to have a name, it doesn't have to have A shape, it doesn't have to have anything right. You can just work on healing that.

Anneliese Swingle: 14:47

You're exactly right, and sometimes you don't need to know the story to heal it. And sometimes you do, though yes, because there's always the you know rabbit hole of how deep does this go. But you can also say um. You can ask your body are, are there any more trapped emotions we need to release today? And when your body's done, it'll say no, we're done, we're good to go. So you can do a motion code to the cows come home. And I love that modality, I really do. I think it's helpful. But I always ask is there any more trapped emotions we can release today?

Blaire Stanislao: 15:25

And muscle tests. I think that's part of the system. I haven't been trained in it, so I think that's part of the system, isn't it? You have to ask that. You have to ask that.

Anneliese Swingle: 15:33

And the body never lies. It'll say yes or no. The brain will go no, keep going. And the body's like, no, you're done, we did so much work. And then you can say how are you feeling? And the person can say actually I feel a little tired. That's the indicator that your body's done enough work for the day.

Blaire Stanislao: 15:52

You need to adjust, like shift, to that new frequency. Yeah, that you've got. So I'm going to pull in here. We're kind of all over the chart. Today I had somebody I kind of like it.

Blaire Stanislao: 16:02

I asked somebody ask something. I think it was on Facebook somewhere. They were asking about essentially she's doing energy work and has anybody ever noticed? I don't remember what it was Some kind of physical symptom?

Blaire Stanislao: 16:20

That's what I read. I don't remember what it was. I didn't get that. I don't normally get that particular physical symptom, but I get other physical symptoms and what I find is what you were just describing with if you ask the body and the body says, no, I'm done. That when I'm making these shifts, so say, I'm working on the triggers and I'm releasing and whatever After the summit that I did this is the first online summit I did and I did stuff all through the summit and after the summit and then the holidays come and so everything was finally done and I had a physical reaction, like it wasn't really I did mind of getting sick, but that wasn't really the only one. I had some other physical reactions. So what has been your experience with energy shifting and how it comes out in the physical, I'm going to say the physical body, because that's what we oftentimes use as a gauge.

Anneliese Swingle: 17:18

That's a great question, blair. One of the things that happens with me is I will feel exhausted, and because I work with people all day, either in person or online or just in general, one of my lessons is I have to guard my energy. It's in the house of resources, and so when I do a lot of energy work, I will feel depleted and I can tell I'll just be like, hmm, I need to go kick my feet up, put my feet up the wall, or I need to just sit for a minute and it will show me in my feet. I know that sounds crazy, but my feet will be exhausted and it affects my whole body.

Anneliese Swingle: 18:12

Well, what are your feet? Your feet are your foundation. Everything is built on your foundation. So part of corrective exercise that's the first thing I look at, and so for me, my feet get really tired and it affects my whole body, my whole demeanor, and so I do legs up the wall a lot just to recirculate the blood and get it back to my head. It just seems like it just goes right to my feet and I got nothing up top. So that's what affects me.

Blaire Stanislao: 18:43

Yeah, it's really interesting and I'd like to hear that from anybody who's willing to share, because once you've done it enough, you start to recognize and it's kind of funny. You've got Pisces in the fourth house, that's the feet right, and I'm just pulling out to your attention. I don't know exactly to pull from that yet, but mine, I'm a Virgo rising, so everything. I heard somebody describe this one time and I thought, oh man, that's so dead on. I have a lot of karma with my body and the Virgo area is the digestion, right? Yeah, it is OK. So that's the plague of my whole life, right? I don't want to tell anybody, but that's where it comes out for me. The last couple of times I've had digestive like massive shifts. Honestly, a couple of times I'm like I don't know what it is. I don't think of it. The two times ago it was like this has to be the energy work, because it wasn't anything. I ate, that's how you know.

Anneliese Swingle: 19:42

That's literally how you know the energy is affecting you. This is like if I can tell your listeners anything is, your mind might think it's this or that, but your body is the true indicator of what it is. I love that you're connected enough to the fact that you realize wow, my digestion is kind of off. Well, if that's what you're trying to heal in this lifetime, you're always going to feel it there.

Blaire Stanislao: 20:16

Yeah, yeah, it's funny. My digestion has been so off my entire life that it's like I mean it's beyond comical, okay. I mean I do weird things. I smell food. People think it's weird. I don't care anymore, I'm just like I think I can smell it if it's going to make me sick. Well, I've gotten to the point where I really have kind of honed into it and kind of know what's going to make me sick and I kind of recognize what are the things I can or can't eat. I don't always know, but you're right, it's when you've been doing well in this area that you're kind of managing your life and then all of a sudden something goes off and you didn't do anything that would specifically cause that to happen. That's when I really know yeah, okay, this is obviously energy that's shifting Right.

Anneliese Swingle: 21:01

Right, oh, and I just I love that you have that awareness and if anyone listening out there can just get out of their head for a second and into the body and just say, hey, you know what I am feeling, abc, some people feel a huge heartache, you know, yeah, I mean, some people feel. Everyone feels it differently and if you can just tap into what would I describe this feeling? I mean, for me it's like my feet are tired. I know that sounds crazy, but once you tap into that and understand, oh, this is energy at work, this is energy in motion, it's moving. So whether you want to think of it as moving out of the body and just recognizing that also shifts it.

Blaire Stanislao: 21:56

You know what I mean. It does, and actually I was kind of thinking of I don't know why, imagining somebody asking the same question about, like when is the end of the? I'm tired of doing all this work Like, am I ever going to get to the end of it? And I'm going to be healed. Well, the thing is that energy is always in motion.

Blaire Stanislao: 22:14

It's always changing.

Blaire Stanislao: 22:16

So you're going to constantly have a change of emotion. That means there's going to be new energy. So the idea is to get it flowing and then pay attention to those nuances as you go through there. It's not like you're going to have a check, check, check. I've all done all 455 of these emotions. No, the emotions are going to continue to come, the energy is going to continue to flow and it's more like a resetting. It's very much like the physical, like you're doing your physical fitness stuff, like you've got to. You want to use your body so you can allow that energy to flow through where it should. Yep.

Anneliese Swingle: 22:48

Yep, that's why they say motion changes emotion, because it does. That's why exercise is so important, especially for people who are well, let's just say, trying to lose weight or just trying to get healthier, or trying to get stronger, or trying to. It's a form of meditation, if you think of it 100% in that way. It changes your emotional state just because you moved your body vigorously.

Blaire Stanislao: 23:19

Yeah, no, 100%. I mean, like when I first got into this stuff and I was listening, it was after my husband died, right, listening to all kinds of things. Deepak Chopra is a one-year family, like he said it in a way that it was finally like, oh, that's what meditation is. And when he the way I don't remember which one of the million things I was listening to he was describing it as, but it was like he was describing what the essence of meditation was and it didn't have to do with sitting in a particular position or being still, or you know right, it was like, oh, you've got to occupy.

Blaire Stanislao: 23:49

For me it clicked. It said you've got to occupy the body in a way that doesn't call all of your attention but it requires enough of your attention so that, essentially, you get into this hypnotic state. Right, and I can use that word now because I know. So that's why, like, repetitive motion for me was 100%. So when I used to ride my bike in high school, and ride 10 to 12 miles most days, I used to call it absorbing because I'd be outside right riding my bike. Well, that was meditation, right.

Anneliese Swingle: 24:20

Exactly, exactly, and and and. When I'm working with my clients and they're like I don't have time to meditate, when you just shift your mindset to wow, you can get into a form of meditation. Just by going to on a walk, you can. The way you think about meditation isn't, like you just said, sitting, still going, um, it is not that it is literally getting out of your head and into your body. Moving your body, dance can be a form of meditation, yoga, all of that. We put meditation in a box, thinking that we have to do A, b, c or D to say that we've meditated. The biggest thing is to quit thinking.

Blaire Stanislao: 25:11

Yeah, actually, I'll share with you a funny thing. Okay, this happened within the last two years I know I don't remember exactly when, but something happened and I got really mad and I was so mad. I was like I'm going to the gym, I'm just because I couldn't sit still, that's what it was. I just like there's no way. I was so angry I had to get get going and I thought, okay. So I was in tune with all the stuff. I knew that I was mad, I knew we need to work on whatever it was that was causing me to be mad, right, and so when I go to the gym, I've got the headphones in and I'm totally listening to some sort of meditation some of your others. So here I am, like you know, doing something fairly vigorous, you know, but I'm listening to this nice calm music and and trying to get in the zone. And you know what it worked? It absolutely worked. It does. You know it's contradictory, it seems it actually worked, yeah.

Blaire Stanislao: 26:02

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