Navigating Inner Realms: Unlocking Emotional Energies for Holistic Well-Being

Speaker 1: 0:01

Hello, this is Blair Stanisleo, with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast.

Speaker 1: 0:07

Mystical and Infamous where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and light, and now we invite you to enjoy the show. So we were talking earlier and you were talking about how, as soon as you were honestly old enough to see, you were able to see energy. And I'm really curious to hear about that, because I've had an interesting transition, learning to talk about energy, and I kind of wonder what you have to say, because I'm interested to have it compared to my thought process, and I'm sure all the listeners are too.

Speaker 2: 0:50

So, yeah, well, you know, I think at the time I didn't even realize that what I was seeing is energy and things moving through it and I could see it. I could see the waves and I could see the particles that are flowing through the waves. But I just thought that was normal, that everybody did that right. And then as you get older and people are like, do you see that? And I'm like, yeah, I see it. And then I start describing it in the way that I see it. You get those looks where people are like, and so then that's when I really started realizing that I don't see the world in the ways that other people do. And one of the beautiful things, even about energy, is that there's a lot of colors in it, so at least that's the way I see it. So I see very like. I see very vibrantly is the best way that I can describe it so what a red would look like to somebody else. It's very vibrant and beautiful. I love colors. So as I started getting older, it doesn't go away, so I could see it.

Speaker 2: 1:59

But it was interesting because I remember being in science class and when we talk about solids, liquids, gases, it was like I already knew what they were talking about and how the particles, when we're talking about things that are solid, when I look at a bed, I see a bed, but I can also, when I really go to focus on it, I can see the particles or the atoms like this, and they're still moving. It's not that they just stop and that creates a solid right. They're still moving and shifting because everything with energy is vibration, so there's still a vibration. But it was interesting because I could see it going like this and I was like, yeah, and I was like, well, when the motion is slow and the atoms and the particles come together thus creates a solid right. So it's kind of the same way with liquids, because liquid is a bit thicker, but now we're moving faster.

Speaker 2: 3:01

And then with gas, the vibration of gas itself is very high, vibrational because you can't actually see it most of the time right. So like I mean, even like a good example of that is like I live in Arizona, so when you go to pump your gas, right, you can see the energy coming up from it. So you can see it's a gas and it's never flowing smooth. It's always moving very quickly with its vibrations, anyway. So that was always how I saw the world.

Speaker 1: 3:34

Is that the same as seeing the fumes, would you say? Or do you see the fumes? And also?

Speaker 2: 3:42

I can see the fumes and also like the vibrations that are within it. So anyway, so I grew up like that, thinking that's normal, you know, until I started getting those weird looks and people started questioning what it was that I was seeing. But you know, even now, like I still see it, like I sit in my house and I can see the energy moving. So when I have a disincarnate visitor, by the way the energy distorts and the way the energy moves, I know when. You know I, because I connect with all sorts of beings. So I know when there's an angel, I know when there's a galactic that's coming through, like I can just see it, and so I. Most of the time it's a lot of disincarnates. Believe it or not, we do walk around with a lot of disincarnates because our world and their world does combine, so I call them passerbys. So when I'm sitting there and I'm watching the distortion in the energy, I'm like, oh, I have a passerby, and then I kind of watch where the energy mode goes and they come in one side and usually exit another side or they hang out longer. But I've just always seen that.

Speaker 2: 4:45

So you know, in my, in the work that I do, and you know I mentioned earlier that I've always worked in like trauma and mental health I started really wanting more information on how energy works with trauma and mental health. So not only do we have the the magnetic energy flowing through our brains and our system, but, you know, we also have to think of things from a psychological level, right, emotions, like what is the energy behind emotions. So I really started putting those two things together, which then, you know, led me to down my journey of doing hypnosis, because I knew that there was something within the separation of the conscious mind and the subconscious mind. Believe it or not, it's different vibrational, different vibrational energy. And when we're in our conscious mind versus our subconscious mind, can you?

Speaker 1: 5:43

see, that is my question.

Speaker 2: 5:44

Yes, I can.

Speaker 1: 5:46

So I do have a question about that one. Yeah, yeah, I've been working a lot myself personally, even in the last two months, on really starting to recognize there. I mean, other people call them trapped emotions, but whatever you want to call it is a response to a past experience, whether it's my now or mine from another time or somebody else's that came and influenced me or whatever and I. It has been a very hard grasp for me to understand, because they they've said things like well, just the other day there was one it was. It was a. There was a trigger between my husband and I and then I had this conversation about what that trigger was and what do you do with it.

Speaker 1: 6:30

And this turned into you're afraid of death. Okay, I can, I can get that, but you know I'm a widow of 11 years and you make a lot of transitions in that time. You know you're grieving, you're getting over whatever it is you have to get over. You're kind of processing where you think how you think things work and so forth, and I would say, consciously at least, I feel like I've gotten to the point where I don't really feel like I have a fear of death. But then I go and have a dream analysis. So we know this doesn't have anything to do and this was by Michael Sheridan, but this doesn't have anything to do with anybody else. Okay, and he does his dream analysis. He's been doing for more than 30 years and I have studied enough to know that he's dead on about this, but the stuff that he pulled out was just like I was like you know you have you have, you have issues you need to work on with your mom, meaning your personal relationship. Right, my mom is gone.

Speaker 2: 7:24

My dad is gone.

Speaker 1: 7:25

That's. It's not about that. It's about my relationship, I guess, with me per se, about that Gotcha. But to have that pulled out, it's just the weirdest thing. It's a very strange experience. So what do you say to somebody who is having a hard time, like me? I'm to the point where I cannot say that it's not there. I know it's there, understanding it or seeing it or feel it, whatever I need to do. It's just it's strange to go into that subconscious part. How do you do that? I mean, I do hypnosis too, so I kind of get it, but not not like not fully.

Speaker 2: 8:05

So you know what? That's an interesting? I've never had anybody actually ask me that. So I guess, from the point of view of where I see it right Because I can see the energy of the conscious mind, I could see the energy of the subconscious mind and and, like you said, you do hypnosis you can. You can tell when, like, by the way, people are answering that their conscious mind is stepping forward. But I actually see the energies almost like start taking over the energy within, like the thoughts, or like the patterning is the best way I could describe it, or like even, even, like I said, even emotions have different vibrational patterns.

Speaker 2: 8:44

So, you know, I've been living with this all my life. So when I'm watching, you know so I went and watching this I'm like, oh, I'm like, I'm like I don't like to use the word trapped emotions, but they do get stuck. So then, so we're probably going to go like this and come back because they do get stuck in our bodies, right, but usually and I'm actually in the process of studying about peptides and neuro peptides right now I mean, I have an idea of it, but even in our peptides, and I won't get into all of the scientific bind it with you know, but but like things, but when so, for example. So we have so energy with our emotion, if it's all, if it, if it's a match for whatever that receptor is, it slips right into that spot as if it's like a lock and key right, you stick the key in and it's like a perfect match. So it's interesting as people and I forgot what your question is- but, I guess saying the difference.

Speaker 2: 9:42

I'm so sorry my brain is starting to go because I'm like oh, so, but, but you know, so I mean, you could call that trapped, you could call that stuck. But right, so peptides are really amino acid chains, that that are created into proteins. Will proteins get stuck in our bodies? So imagine if you have that energy that is slipped into that receptor, that lock right and then our neuro peptides.

Speaker 2: 10:06

so I guess I am getting a bit sciency sticks into our body and it can stick anywhere within our body, right? So one of the things that believe it or not that I can see is not only can I see the energy within the neuro peptide, but I can see the I'm gonna say like, almost like what it appears to be like, the foreign energy that stuck in that receptor. Okay, that is now that that is now stuck within our bodies. So a lot of times when we're talking about subconscious right, we're talking, we're thinking about parts that are in the brain are more like in the mind, is what I'm going to say, because the brain is a different entity from the brain. It's almost like when I go in there, I can see those receptors or those peptides and then I can see where, almost like let's so fear, because you talked about having a fear of death where the fear, like steps, is then connected in there. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1: 11:01

I. So I my next immediate question. Just because of my personal history with the practices I do, it seems like essentially correct me if I'm wrong. You're saying that the emotion which comes into fruition and turns into a chemical in the body For lack of a better term let's say, let's pretend that it's an actual chemical, so the chemical goes into the neuro peptide. Okay, so we know this not completely accurate, but it goes into the neuro peptide. So it's the vibration of this chemical, is emotional response that connects with that peptide. And here's my next question. My experience has been that it then gets drawn to meaning. If this is I don't want to use the word negative, but I think that's the word, at least for this language Okay, okay, if it's a negative emotion, it gets drawn to a place, a specific place that's connected with that emotion.

Speaker 2: 11:54

So so when you mean place, are you talking about like an action?

Speaker 1: 12:00

Okay, that's what I'm. Okay, we have. You know, we have ailments that on the outside we look and we say, oh, you've got this, you've got a problem with your toe, okay, so, okay, there's a problem in my toe. Let's say that the neuro peptides went to my toe, for whatever reason. Okay, the reason it goes to the toe versus going to the knee right, it has to be an energy thing, right, like there has to be something behind it.

Speaker 2: 12:28

I think so. So like pulling it. So it sounds like part of what you're like describing. I remember reading your QHHT part.

Speaker 1: 12:37

Yeah, I also do bqx, but yes, Okay.

Speaker 2: 12:40

So you know, like in QHHT, when you're, when you're doing, when you're doing an interview, and people are talking about like the physical ailments, right, it's all like in QHHT is always connected to something that's emotional or something that happened, right. So, even using your example of like the big toe, right. So the big toe and so follow along with me, the big toe is, you know, if you chop off your big toe, your balance is awful, and the reason I know that is I didn't chop off my big toe, but I am. But I played soccer and I actually broke a bone that you have that's in your big toe for the life of me. Without going through physical therapy, I could not balance. It was insane, so so, for example, so if that energy is going in there, right, and and bear with me, I want to get to my point is, you know, so, learning what we've learned in QHHT, we're like, oh, there's a balancing issue, right, what was at a balance in in their life? So, kind of relating it back to being able to see energy, I can actually see how, how it's creating that imbalance. Does that make sense? So here's the other thing, too, is that it doesn't necessarily mean that we have to go back and rehash that experience of what happened, right, because who wants to relive trauma? I don't, yeah, I don't want to, but but we, like you, can go in there, okay, and then you can actually go in there and, you know, start transmuting the particles or the atoms or whatever it is that stuck in there and start creating it, or I could say, creating but transmuting or transforming it into something different. Because so I'm going to kind of go back to what I was saying.

Speaker 2: 14:25

Like, when that energy goes into that receptor, it automatically changes the vibration of whatever. Whatever that peptide is, okay, so it will change the vibration of it. So, for example, okay, so let's say, in your little stick with your big toe, let's say your big toe is happy, okay, we've got happy, glorious peptides in there, okay, but maybe there was something that happened, you know, in your childhood, where that peptide went, like there was something that went down to that big toe, right? So now we have something that triggers us, and guess what that? So now we've got that energy that's floating in our body and guess where it goes into? It's probably it's going to go into, like another receptor that could possibly affect it, to that peptide that's already in disharmony.

Speaker 2: 15:18

So now, guess what? We change the vibration again, right? And you know, anything that has like emotions, such as anger, sadness, those types of things have a lower vibration. So now it starts vibrating even lower, right? So it's like, I think so for me, in the way that I can see energy, I can see where the vibration, the vibration has changed, and I can start to see like where it's kind of like, where I'm trying to describe this as I can, but like the way it's now transmuted, because energy does not. You cannot destroy energy, you can only transmute energy. So now it's changed again. So then follow along with me, okay. So then let's say there's something else that happens. Completely, completely different situation, same reaction to the trigger.

Speaker 2: 16:06

So now we're gonna go find something that feels alike, right, I call it. It wants to slip into the comfort zone, right? Because so then it slips into another receptor and then now the vibration has changed again. So, really, what it's almost like creating are like what's in psychology it's known as like memory chains, right? So we have the original incident and then, as we keep moving forward into the present, we have the next incident that then is connected to the original incident, and then we have another incident that's now connected to that incident and that incident to the original incident. So it's literally when those triggers happen, it does connect a lot of times to that same peptide or neuropeptide.

Speaker 2: 17:00

But then what happens is now, when we have a neuropeptide that is full of this very low vibrational energy, then we create this ease. So then maybe I don't know, maybe I was gonna say gangrene in your toe or something, right, but then we there's enough of that, of that, really that energy, and if we go back to creating a like, if we wanna, the chemical reaction, so we're just literally putting I'm gonna say like toxic chemicals, chemicals, chemicals in there. So a lot of times when we talk about even like the type of work like the type of work that we do, the energy healing work that we do. We go in there, right, and we wanna start removing, we wanna start taking the key out of all of those locks, right and cause. We wanna take that energy out and then we wanna replace it with a high vibrational energy.

Speaker 2: 17:59

So now we've got our peptide. It may not be vibrating at the same way that it was right, but now we can work on it to vibrate it at a higher rate. So now to kind of tie that into the subconscious. So if we have a neuropeptide where the memory chains match that a lot of times, the memory chains is what's creating that pattern? Does that make sense? So we fall into this pattern, right and now you look like you have a question yeah, no, I guess I'm trying to process that.

Speaker 1: 18:30

So the I'm saying that the what did you call it? Memory chains are causing the pattern. Is that what you?

Speaker 2: 18:38

Well, it creates the pattern, right. So let's kind of go back a little bit. So we have the memory chain or like people who go. So I don't know if you run into this, but you get those people and they're like I don't understand why I keep going back to the same type of guy.

Speaker 1: 18:55

Okay, I mean, that's just a problem. That could be a problem of any kind. I keep, they keep running into the same problem right yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:02

The same thing. Well, if you do a memory trace back to where it originally happened, okay, like then you'll see like there's. And then they do it again, because what they're being drawn to is those neuropeptides that have now grabbed onto those to that energy right.

Speaker 1: 19:24

Does that make sense? It does, okay, I want to say here. So I'm really trying to. I spend a lot of time trying to figure out. How do we it's not even assimilate how do we understand how these two worlds exist at the same time?

Speaker 1: 19:40

Okay, and by that what I mean is we are spiritual beings in a physical body experiencing a physical experience. Right, correct, if you talk to a very spiritual person, they say that the spirituality is the core essence of what we, what in who we are, and physical stuff is not as significant. Of course, I fall into that line a little more than I fall into the other line. But if you look at it from the other perspective, somebody who's more present in the 3D, or an as a spiritual person would say, in a way deluded by the 3D, like this is it? That's all there is. I think they have those problems and at least astrologically, I know, in other methods where we learn about ourselves through the hidden knowledge. Right, is that you have these struggles like you run into the same problem. You have the same physical ailment over and over, because there is this energy signature which sounds similar to this memory chain thing that you're talking about.

Speaker 2: 20:44

Mm-hmm, yeah, yes, yes, okay.

Speaker 1: 20:46

You know what, the real issue behind it, which sounds like you know, an emotional response to something. Maybe we could use that as an example. If you don't deal with, if you don't allow that energy to flow through, like the energy to stop moving, you're allowing it to stop moving then you wind up having these problems. So I guess what I'm trying to put together here is this is this reminds me what you're describing reminds me of? I mean, it's so connected to science. That's what's so amazing to me.

Speaker 2: 21:21

Yes, yes and the quantum.

Speaker 1: 21:24

I'm just thinking about the double split experiment. I forgot when you, when they're, you know they spin one way and then one of them changes and the other one changes.

Speaker 2: 21:32

Mm-hmm yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:33

So it's almost and that's the experience that I have found when people are saying things like I listened long enough that I finally figured it out that you know this, let's say, this life of mine, I have this traumatic experience which then triggers it over here. So in this other life maybe I didn't have an experience, but it's coming up for some reason and it's kind of triggered, so like it's almost like we're working on ourselves multi-dimensionally.

Speaker 2: 21:59

Oh, yes, well, we are multi-dimensional beings, you know, and people just like we don't, and like you know people who are very immersed in 3D. It's very hard for them to to see that, but we really are multi-dimensional beings. We live in different dimensions all day long, like we really do. You know so. So, for example, you know, maybe I'm at work and I'm very concentrating, concentrated on this email that I have to send out. I'm now in the 3D world. Right Now, my work day is over and I'm driving home and I don't even remember how I get home. Do you know what I mean? So now I've moved into like another, like another dimensional space.

Speaker 2: 22:42

Does that make sense? So now let's say I'm sitting there and I'm watching TV and I zone out. We're moving through another. We're constantly moving through different dimensions, if that makes sense. Even like right right before we go to bed or right before we wake up, we are in another dimensional timeline. But but because it's not often talked about, people don't realize that, right, they just think well, this is just, this is what I do, this is like my normal day. Oh, I zoned out while I was driving. Well, guess what was getting you home? Was your like? You know, people have different names for it. You're subconscious, super conscious, higher self. You know, is what's getting you home?

Speaker 2: 23:28

Okay, so I just have to interject.

Speaker 1: 23:30

I don't know if you saw, this movie, but when I saw it I was like this is the coolest thing ever. It is all of these ideas that you're talking about, but it has come into fruition in a creative experience where people can watch it and start to entertain the idea. So whatever part of them is not ready for that, because it's fun, it's there. So everything everywhere all at once. Did you see that? No, you have to see it Okay.

Speaker 2: 23:55

It is exactly Okay, I have to make a note.

Speaker 1: 23:57

It's like you pull on that's essentially what the whole movie is about. They, they realize that they're multi-dimensional, okay, and they have their whatever names that they have for it. But she learns to, um, you know, like in one dimension she's uh, I think she's like really good at Kung Fu or something, I don't know good at fighting, right, and so she needs to fight in this other dimension where she's like this meager little laundry bat owner and so when she needs to do that, she, essentially they, what they have them do, of course, cause it's fiction, right. They, they have this little ear thing that they stick on and she puts it on there and they have to do something weird. And doing that kind of jolt, the system, and then all the memories of how to fight or whatever she has to do from that skill set comes into her body and then she's able to do it, and so it's yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:41

Yes, okay. So I love these conversations because you know, um, you know, some of the hypnosis that I did before was connecting people with their parallel lives, right, so you sit down and you listen to them and they're like I just want to be, maybe they just want to have more compassion. Let's say they're like I'm really working on that, I just wanted to have more compassion, I want to see people in, like a broader view. So, okay, so, the so, that's, so, that's we'll. We'll just say that's the issue, right, so then let's go into your I say like I call it your subconscious, but I believe it's access to the whole spiritual realm.

Speaker 2: 25:18

Okay, it's worth because we're cause. Yeah, so we're tapping into your soul and then the soul is, like you know, it's like a projection, right, it's showing you all these infinite possibilities, right, so then we can, as going going through there, getting the conscious mind vibration to step aside, so we can get to that higher vibrational level, right, well, we get in there, tapping into that parallel life because, okay, sorry, before I get into that quantum physics, right, every decision and everything that we do splits off.

Speaker 1: 25:50

Right.

Speaker 2: 25:51

We're creating all of these different timelines constantly with every decision that we make, right? So if I decide today I'm going to eat the burger rather than the taco, there's a life out there where I ate the taco rather than the burger, right? So now, when we get to that, you know the fun side, you know the conscious mind is gone. We're in the fun zone, the really quantum zone. Now we can go in because we can pull. If it is our timeline and it's meant for us and we have it, we can pull it to us. Right, Because I can't go and pull your timelines. The only timelines that I could pull with you on it is if I'm a part of it. Okay, Does that make sense? Like?

Speaker 1: 26:31

pull them to your experience, or what do you mean?

Speaker 2: 26:33

Yeah, or like, yeah, because now what we're going to do is we're going to pull that energy forward, because really what we're pulling, like what we're playing with on that timeline, is the energy that's in it, right. So so, quantumly, we can tap into any of that energy. So now, and like when we're visiting like a parallel life, we can tap into that quantum energy, we can pull it closer. So now I'm going to pull it closer, we're going to take a look at, like what, what? The compassion side is Right. So, yes, your conscious mind may step in a little bit, because it needs to understand this.

Speaker 2: 27:07

For us to when we step into our human being side is the best way I could describe it. So now we're looking and I like, let's say, I see myself where, like, I'm just very loving, maybe I'm very empathetic, maybe I have a career in like that focuses on that. Maybe you know, like therapists a lot of therapists are very empathetic. So let's say, I'm like, I'm like this, really successful therapist, and so I get to see that, well, I'm not bringing in those actual events. What I'm bringing in is the energy and vibration of those actual events that I them and putting back into my body. So here we go, we're going back to science, right. So I'm going to pull those in and whatever neuropeptides or peptides that are a vibrational match to that we're going to, it's going to lock and key into that receptor.

Speaker 2: 27:52

And now I mean, you know, you talk about the woman who you know, maybe she's Kung Fu fighter, she may not be the best Kung Fu fighter, but now she has that that vibrational match to become. That. Does that make sense? It sounds, it's so, it's. I know it's for some people, it's for some people, it's so out there. But but but you know, you know, people call, like, you know, the spiritual side, like the woo side, right, and then we have the science side. But the woo and the science actually do go hand in hand. Once you really, I'm going to say really pay attention that both sides are really talking about the same thing and its energy and vibration, right, yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:31

Which I find very similar to the way that people would describe science, and because I come from the Southeast okay, science in the Bible. Okay, right, you get science in the Bible. You can find astrology in the Bible. You can find Chinese medicine in the Bible. Right, you're looking for that kind of thing, you're going to find it there, but it's. It's a good example of looking at two things that sometimes feel like they're very contrasting and yet they, like you said, they do still have the same energetic.

Speaker 2: 28:58

Now, not, maybe not all parts of them, right, yeah, but yeah, like, well, and you know, and that, and that's part of it too, Right, so you know, when you talk about, you know, science and and the Bible, they're still different, vibrational, like everything, like to me, I'm like everything is vibrating, everything's vibrating at different speeds, but but with the similarities of it. Right, they're going to lock, lock and key yeah.

Speaker 1: 29:22

So this is the same. That's a very elaborate description of essentially saying um, whatever your vibration is at the moment, right, you're, or you know whatever over time, however you want to address time, but um, whatever your vibration is, you're calling in something that resonates with that. That's why it's really important to watch where your vibration is.

Speaker 2: 29:44

So, so fun, so okay. So I don't know about you, but a lot of times I get people in there like I'm trying to manifest this, so and I actually love working with clients that are like I really want this in into my life, right. So here I guess I'm going to give it like another example. So they're like I've been trying to manifest this and you know, I've been really thinking all this positive stuff, well, that's great and all, but let's look at how you're really vibrating. So then when you start to talk to them, they're like yeah, you know, I put it out there like I want this magnificent job. And then when you really talk to them because words and language tell you a lot where we're vibrating, right, they say well, you know, I just don't really have the education for it, so maybe I shouldn't go for it, but you're putting it out there that you want this job. So guess, what you're telling me is that positive thoughts are the only thing that can bring stuff to you. You know, I mean there's a lot of stuff that goes into it. All the universal laws play a part, but now you're showing me where you're really vibrating. So you put out this intent that I really want this great high paying job, but now I don't have the education, I don't maybe, I don't have the experience.

Speaker 2: 31:01

So I always tell people I'm like, well, who cares? Because what we can do is we can go. You know, we're going to open up and expand. That's why expansion is so important, right? Because when we expand then we pull away those particles and we can work within that space. So let's really expand out our energy. Let's go to that timeline. It could be the parallel timeline where maybe you were this high executive, right? Or maybe, or maybe it's a timeline that's floating out there that you haven't quite, you know, connected with yet, cause there's infinite amount of possibilities for you, right? So let's go into that quantum field, let's pull forward that timeline, let's take a look at it, right? And then you know, and then oftentimes, you hear?

Speaker 1: 31:47

well, I already imagined how I want it Fantastic.

Speaker 2: 31:50

Then you have pulled in that timeline. But let's really see what you pulled in. What parts of that, intellectually or consciously, did you throw away? And people often look at me and they're like, well, what are you talking about? I said it doesn't matter how you envisioned it. What matters is that you're not pulling into you because you're talking about I don't have the experience, I don't have the education. Is you're not pulling in the energy from that. Does that, is that making sense? Yes, yes.

Speaker 1: 32:19

Okay. So I want to ask one thing. So is it to say that if you have a desire for something somewhere, cause what you're talking about is connecting to source, and your the parts of you, right, whatever version of you is, of course, also from source. So is it correct to say that if you have a particular desire for something it's likely that you have already acquired is not the right word, but experienced that vibration in some other realm and that's why you have a pulling towards it?

Speaker 2: 32:57

I would agree with that. Yes, because we're matching with that vibration. So a lot of times I do talk a lot about the law of detachment when we're talking about wanting to bring whatever it is to us Because we talk about. Well, everybody's very familiar with the law of attraction. That's why I said all the universal laws play a part in that, because you need to understand how the law of vibration works, and so I won't give it go into all the laws, but one of the most important thing that is often overlooked is that law of detachment. Because even though I pull in that timeline, there's still that, because I am a spiritual being having a human physical experience, hence why we have our conscious side, if that, am I making sense? So now I'm, even though I'm pulling in that timeline, there's probably is truths that are on that timeline that I'm seeing and I want to say on the fun side, but then I'm also creating it, as it would relate to where I am, to where I think I am. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1: 34:02

No, it's not completely so let me keep going. So you're talking about the spiritual source. We're talking about our let's call it higher self, because a lot of people do that. Okay, perfect so yeah, can you restate that?

Speaker 2: 34:15

So okay. So one of the things kind of rewinding is so we pull in the timeline right, so we want to see what's on the timeline. So the conscious side of us is going to, it is going to play a role in that, because what the conscious mind is going to do, what it always does right Is it is it puts things, it labels things, it put things in box, it organizes things right. So as we're looking at that timeline and the conscious mind steps in, I'm going to say like I'm going to say that's fine, like allow it, because maybe what I see myself doing is I see myself sitting down and I'm interviewing and I give this rockstar interview. Then I get the phone call and instead of what they were going to pay me, they double it. Do you know what I mean? So it's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 2: 35:01

But what happens is is that then, when we kind of come back to I'm going to use the word reality, we come back to the reality. What we're actually holding on is oh, I did a rockstar interview. Oh, they doubled my salary. Oh, my boss is really cool, and we're holding on to the expectations that we put on it versus the actual vibration that we felt when I did the rockstar interview. How did I feel when I did the rockstar interview? What vibrations was I bringing in? Confidence, self assurance, you know all those things that go into that. Those are vibrations. So now I want to pull that vibration in. You know how did I feel when they doubled my salary? Right, I felt valued, I felt important. Do you know what I mean? So, bring in those vibrations. But a lot of times what happens is is we don't detach from the expectation that we created of how we kind of want it to go, versus holding on to the vibrations that need to come into the body again to connect with all those.

Speaker 1: 36:07

Does that? Does that make sense? It does, and it makes sense in the sense that I think everybody who kind of works with this stuff always there's always about feeling right, like it's not. It's never about the details. And if you talk to somebody, I mean if you think about dreams or you think about anybody who's under hypnosis or whatever, when they talk it's not that there are not specifics in it, but they're not quite as important as we think they are. And so one of those things I find I mean I have a group that we meet and we essentially we meditate, we do some other things, but all of us are on different at different points, in that comfort, with that experience, and it's it's really interesting to watch somebody grow spiritually and become more in tune with these ideas and have to learn how to let go of that specificity, like yes.

Speaker 1: 36:58

I can remember even taking Reiki the first time, okay. So, yes, I grew up in the South East. It was a heavy Christian influence and I didn't really necessarily have a problem with it per se, but I wouldn't say that I, like completely, was like, oh yes, this is the only way, you know. Okay, because I had different kinds of friends and so forth, but when we, when we were talking about they were talking about what people call guides, okay, and I personally have a really hard time with that because I wasn't raised in a household where there were these heavy images about. You have an angel here there and can't say that I haven't heard it, but it wasn't like pushed at my throat. So you have these angels and you have, you know, this particular one named this thing does, as you could tell, I didn't attach to what the name is or why or?

Speaker 1: 37:44

any of that. But that doesn't mean I didn't get the energy of what people were talking about. So to watch people like I took a. I remember I took a quick. It was a quick course on calling in your spirit animal and blah, blah, blah and I think that's great if people love it. But what I found was I felt like the people who were in the course are people who are really drawn to animals and they kind of identify with them. But I'm not saying that I don't identify with an animal, but I don't feel like I need a specific animal that can never change to guide me. And so I have a. I have a hard time with that. So I think I, on some level, I do have a hard time with the specificity, but that doesn't mean I'm not having the same kind of problems that other people aren't having. But releasing the specificity is extremely important.

Speaker 2: 38:34

Say that last part of the story and seeing the specificity about things is really important.

Speaker 2: 38:39

It is. So I resonate with what you're saying. With guides, Like people, when I first started this journey, I'm all guides, guides but, like you know, I see the world as like energy. So when people would talk about their guides or when they would describe them in detail, I'm like you know, I feel that energy, I'm experiencing that energy, but that's what it is, is that energy? So people would be like, well, what does your guide look like? What is your guide's name? And I'm like, I'm like I don't, I don't know, and to me that's not a big deal, Like I don't care what they're named, but it's the energy that I'm interacting with.

Speaker 1: 39:15

Oh, that's really interesting, and so that's that's really interesting Cause one of the this is really it's like a turning point for me is we started this group and there's two other people who do it with me that started it and they're on. One of them is 70 something years old and the other one is like a little bit younger than me and I would say they're they're more experienced at the meditation and so forth than I am. But like we'll we'll do the meditation and sometimes we will communicate while we're doing it. Like we'll kind of share with what each other, what we're experiencing. And through the time that we've done that, what would happen was one of them would chime in with whatever she was experiencing, and then the other one would start and well, I'm not the one who just like I don't have that experience of talking about it quite so much, and I just felt like, well, the what you know, like I okay, yeah, I kind of sense that, right. But then of course you're thinking, well, maybe they were influencing me. But as we continue to do that, what I found was it's irrelevant whether they were influencing me or not, because there were times where we would just not even be sharing. And then, finally I would notice something and I think, oh, I'm just noticing something. And then a few seconds later, one of them would start to describe something and I'd realize, oh yeah, that's the same thing. So it's almost like, but it's coming through in a different way. So it didn't have a face, it didn't have a name, it didn't have a physical representation, but it was. Maybe it was a feeling or it was.

Speaker 1: 40:40

It's hard for people to understand what an energy is, but that's sort of what I expect it to be. It's like it either comes through a feeling, it comes through a thought, it comes through somehow. So you get that information and then you, you know what it is. I don't always feel like I know how to act on it, but you do kind of know what it is. But it comes through different people from their life experience, in a different way. Like, one of these people is really good at seeing visual things. So I mean, she instantly sees stuff. Another one, the other one, she does see visual things, but she also she does light language. So she has this way of translating. Essentially, what it is is what that energy is, and she's so experienced at it she's, you know, she's in her seventies and seeing energy for a long time and understanding it. But now she's to the point where she's actually, like you know, spanish kind of explaining it to people.

Speaker 2: 41:33

Yes, yeah, yeah. So you know it is hard to explain to somebody like what, like experiencing energy you know what I mean. Or like it's just, truthfully, it is just, it's an it's, it is. To me it truly is an indescribable experience because even when we talk about thoughts and feelings, what are thoughts and feelings? Is energy, right?

Speaker 2: 41:59

So I so a lot of times when I work with people, like when I'm working with people and you know they're really, they're really attached to the thoughts that come into their head, I usually kind of do. I do kind of like a semi-trance, like exercise or experience with them for them to see that every single thought that comes in, you can choose whether or not to allow that energy to enter into your body. So if the thought is, you know, if the thought is like negative or it could even be self-harming, right, you choose whether to want to hold on to that. But then when I do this other exercise size or I hate using the word exercise, but this experience, cause that's what they're doing we can transmute that that's coming in and even if let's say that's that self-harming thought tries to come in, you can still look at it and be like and allow your vibration to stay high enough where you can recognize that it's a lower vibration or like it's not a good thought, right, but it doesn't mean that you have to hold onto that.

Speaker 1: 43:05

Does that make sense? It makes sense because that was one of the turning points for my grief, which and I was listening to all kinds of stuff and Deepak Chopra was the one who articulated in the way that stuck for me and of course I was having like anxiety and you know, like that after the, after he died, and it's like you get into the, it is like that stuck energy, it's like you get into this kind of snowball effect and then you don't know what to do to get out.

Speaker 1: 43:31

But eventually you can, so, like if you go to sleep, you can get out of it or you like, like you're talking about break it and allow the conscious mind to just take a back seat. What I noticed when I finally got that was like I would, I was fine in whatever situation, and then something would come up and it would trigger me, and then I realized and then it would just go, and then I'd be like wait a minute, no, I don't actually that's cause. He said thoughts, exactly what you're describing. Thoughts are things that we tend to think are truth, but they're just thoughts. They're just waves that come in and they can leave and they can easily slow down.

Speaker 2: 44:08

So I'm so glad you said that, okay. So so what you're describing is what we were talking about in the beginning those memory chains, and those memory chains are what puts us into those patterns. I call them sub routines, because we can we can be on our path and be in alignment, and we know that we are, and then we have these sub routines that are the patterns that we just kind of keep replaying. Right, I keep going for, for, like the abusive man, or I keep sabotaging myself when I have the opportunity to have these really good jobs. So we have these sub routines that are playing, which are all connected to those memory chains. So it's so we're playing all of those patterns.

Speaker 2: 44:47

But you know, when I, when I work with somebody who's really stuck in that, because it's their thoughts that they're really holding on to and I can show them that, that you know you can have that thought come in, but you can really, but you can always transmute it right. So I always do this, do this one thing where, like I have, like I have them do like I we go kind of into the subconscious and so we're bringing up whatever you know, whatever it is that they're needing to experience, it's even to experience something positive, right, and the first time they do it they're still stuck in with that issue. Is that they came in right, so they're still holding on to that thought. So then we amp it up a little bit. They kind of have this good thought and then I completely take them out of that and put them right into their conscious mind.

Speaker 2: 45:34

So then I give them you know, I don't math very well, so I give them some difficult math problem and they sit there and they're like you know, because it's hard, sometimes it can be a really hard transition going from subconscious to conscious mind and they're sitting there and you see them, they're counting on their fingers and of course I don't make them do that, do it. I start laughing and I said how quickly and easily was it for you to move from that positive thought to this thought of oh my gosh, I have to figure out this math problem, like I gotta be this math whiz. And they like stop, and it was like that right. And they're like yes, and I said so. You know, research shows that we have over 60,000 thoughts flooding us every day and we very much are telepathic beings. We don't realize it that we are. But, like you know, we walk into Walmart and all of a sudden, you know we go from being happy to being like really angry and very frustrated with everyone, right.

Speaker 1: 46:26

I turned the news on.

Speaker 2: 46:27

So yeah, exactly, and now we're thinking how irritated I am with that person, or you know why am I standing in this line so long? So, anyway, so we have over 60,000 thoughts that come into our energy field, into our mind, and we can choose which thoughts are for us or which thoughts aren't for us. So I was telling them, I'm like, if the thought comes in, swish it away, and all you have to say to it is if this is really something that is meant for me, you will come back later, but I'm gonna add an extra, like part of energy on it. I want you to come back later with some sort of solution or some sort of greater awareness for me, and if it comes back, then you know that it's yours. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 47:14

So sometimes I have people that are like, well, I'm just sad, I'm sad all the time. I think about how I'm sad. All the time I'm like, well, give it a shot, swish it away and then go on with your day, right. And then, if it comes back and you start feeling sad, all you gotta do is talk to it and like we can talk to energy right, cause, again, our words carry energy. So even when we say them. It's a vibration that's connecting to this.

Speaker 2: 47:37

Why am I sad? Well, you know, the original thought that may have come in was that you're sad, that you know. Well for me. Okay, so I'll use it personally as that one. I was so sad when I sent my son off to college, like, oh my God, I'm gonna miss him. He's gone, my buddy, what am I gonna do? Right? So I do sit in that sadness and then I'm like, nope, like I'm gonna send that vibration away because I can choose whether or not to have it. And then, let's say, two hours later, I'm sad again, but because I created a memory that's connected to the original sad this. I'm like oh my God, it's him. Oh, I'm so sad, right. But if I communicate with it, it's all about communicating, right? If I communicate with it and I'm like well, why am I sad this time? Well, maybe I'm sad because maybe, again, maybe I went to Walmart and I picked up on somebody else's thought. Is this thought mine? Nope, get rid of it. Do you know what I mean? So we have to be-.

Speaker 1: 48:33

Which is a practice and puts it into the conscious.

Speaker 2: 48:36

Yes, yes. And what happens is is once you, honestly, once you train that your higher self not train but once you get those subroutines out of those patterns and you're back into your higher self, your higher self wants to work for you, not against you. So it is, it's going to transfer. It'll be like oh, you're kind of falling into this pattern, we're gonna transmute it and it's gonna send it to your conscious mind for you to start getting out of it quickly.

Speaker 1: 49:03

So you're saying that it sends you essentially I mean maybe not triggers, but it's sending you things that are causing you to notice that and then deal with it.

Speaker 2: 49:15

Yeah, because it's gonna, because that's what we're asking, right? So, literally, when we're saying, thought I want you to go away, we're, you know we're having a, we're having a conversation with that energy, but we're also having a conversation with our higher self. Saying higher self, if this is something that I need to address, then I know that you're going to bring it back to me because there's something that is important to it. But here's where the importance is. We don't dwell on the sadness, we're asking it information. What is it that I need to know in my awareness?

Speaker 2: 49:41

So, maybe the sadness is is that I? You know, I can't even think of anything off the top of my head, but maybe, like, the sadness is, is you know what you really like? You really just need to. Maybe you just need to heal some? I mean, it could be. I'm just kind of throwing this out there. Maybe you need to heal. You know something that you're like your boss said to you last week. Do you know what I mean? Because you chose to ignore it and now it's still sitting on the surface. I'm just kind of throwing that out there and like or what is the lesson that I need to learn? Well, the lesson, maybe the lesson is that I need to learn is that there's really not sadness.

Speaker 2: 50:16

I created the sadness in the situation and it's not really sadness, but I all I need to do is just acknowledge the fact that I just miss him. I hope that's making sense, because when we start getting into that, it can get really complicated. But that's one of the reasons why I love working with like the higher self or like the subconscious mind, because you can go in, because we do. We do create those programs or those sub routines that we don't want, but we can go in there and we can really, we really can free program them. So because that's what it's doing, it's running on automatic pilot and then when something comes in like you know, when the sadness comes in I go, oh well, it's okay, I'm just missing him and I don't have to be sad. I can just acknowledge that I'm missing him and maybe get excited because maybe I'm going to see him in like a week. Do you know what I?

Speaker 1: 51:01

mean yeah, so it's like a dance between the conscious and the unconscious, or higher self or whatever we want to call it, because initially, when you first started talking, I was saying, okay, so that means that the older we get, the worse it's going to be Right Like we're going to. I mean, if you think about it, that's what happens when we're. We think that's aging, right Like we get older, and so we have more physical, we have more dis-ease, which is kind of these patterns, right. But if we get to, I kind of wonder if that's where I mean definitely like the spiritual gurus or the ones that live for so much longer than we ever imagined.

Speaker 2: 51:38

I was just thinking that that live like to be like 150.

Speaker 1: 51:41

Yeah, so they learn to essentially do what you're talking about, and so, therefore, the neuropeptides are not activated, and well, they're not stuck wherever they are.

Speaker 2: 51:51

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 51:52

So if the energy flows and things function better longer, yeah Well, this is really awesome. Thank you so much for joining us. I think we can.

Speaker 2: 52:00

So much fun stuff. Yeah, thank you for letting me share that. I get so excited to talk about this stuff because I just think it's so fascinating and true. If anybody takes anything away from that, you are the one that's in control of you. Nothing else out there can control you. You get to be. You get to be, you know, the captain of your own ship, so choose how you want it to be.

Speaker 1: 52:22

Like and I will add to that you. When you refer to you, we are referring to the higher version of you that also works as a conscious and the physical version of you. So it's not like only your physical and only your regular, like awake state is working. You can trust in the part of you that loves you more than anything could possibly love you. That's what I love about hypnosis, cause it's like I don't have to argue about what they say, because they say it for themselves. They're getting the amp.

Speaker 2: 52:54

Yes, yeah, yeah. And you're like I want you to go back and listen to this and hear how you talked about yourself. Like this is the true version of you, not this version that you know going through life has picked up. You know. You know unrealistic expectations, societal programming, you know limiting beliefs Like this is you Like, and you said it, not me.

Speaker 1: 53:19

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