Mystical & Infamous

Reiki is Love. Love is Reiki. I am love. I am Reiki.

November 21, 2023 Blaire Stanislao @Happy Lyon Center Season 3 Episode 7
Reiki is Love. Love is Reiki. I am love. I am Reiki.
Mystical & Infamous
More Info
Mystical & Infamous
Reiki is Love. Love is Reiki. I am love. I am Reiki.
Nov 21, 2023 Season 3 Episode 7
Blaire Stanislao @Happy Lyon Center
In this episode of Blaire Stanislao chats with Kathie Malby about tapping into a transformative energy that leaves you feeling deeply loved and healed. That's the power of Reiki and the formless realm we explore in this episode. We navigate the intricate topics of consciousness, love, and healing, sharing personal experiences that highlight the wonder of this extraordinary energy. By forging a connection with the formless realm, we've found a profound sense of peace and the origin of everything - a journey we're excited to take you on. 

Ever wondered about the role of love in the process of healing and manifestation? How about the influence of angels, demons, and channeling in our lives? Do spirit attachments sound intriguing or perhaps a little unsettling? This episode unravels all these complex subjects. We share how we've learned to handle spirit attachments, how love can create powerful transformations, and the enlightening perspective we've gained on the often misunderstood topics of angels, demons, and channeling. 

We talk about healing attachments, forgiveness, and releasing trauma, sharing our experiences with Reiki, the importance of self-love, and positivity in the healing process. 

Support the Show.

**It appears some links in podcast apps do not work on mobile devices, but do work on computers. We're happy to help finding any information. Text us +1-406-282-0333 for the fastest help.**

Send inquiries, suggestions for new discussion topics and comments to podcast at happylyoncenter.com If you found this session helpful, please comment, like, share and download. Donations are appreciated and help us to produce more of this content. Consider making a regular contribution here or one time donations here. Your support is greatly appreciated.

Learn more about our group, Elevate, Me. Now! for transformative gatherings for inner harmony and success. Find out more about our featured guests, practical applications of astrology, and our astrology study group here.

Mystical & Infamous +
Help us continue making great content for listeners everywhere.
Starting at $3/month
Support
Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers
In this episode of Blaire Stanislao chats with Kathie Malby about tapping into a transformative energy that leaves you feeling deeply loved and healed. That's the power of Reiki and the formless realm we explore in this episode. We navigate the intricate topics of consciousness, love, and healing, sharing personal experiences that highlight the wonder of this extraordinary energy. By forging a connection with the formless realm, we've found a profound sense of peace and the origin of everything - a journey we're excited to take you on. 

Ever wondered about the role of love in the process of healing and manifestation? How about the influence of angels, demons, and channeling in our lives? Do spirit attachments sound intriguing or perhaps a little unsettling? This episode unravels all these complex subjects. We share how we've learned to handle spirit attachments, how love can create powerful transformations, and the enlightening perspective we've gained on the often misunderstood topics of angels, demons, and channeling. 

We talk about healing attachments, forgiveness, and releasing trauma, sharing our experiences with Reiki, the importance of self-love, and positivity in the healing process. 

Support the Show.

**It appears some links in podcast apps do not work on mobile devices, but do work on computers. We're happy to help finding any information. Text us +1-406-282-0333 for the fastest help.**

Send inquiries, suggestions for new discussion topics and comments to podcast at happylyoncenter.com If you found this session helpful, please comment, like, share and download. Donations are appreciated and help us to produce more of this content. Consider making a regular contribution here or one time donations here. Your support is greatly appreciated.

Learn more about our group, Elevate, Me. Now! for transformative gatherings for inner harmony and success. Find out more about our featured guests, practical applications of astrology, and our astrology study group here.

Blaire Stanislao:

Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lyon Center. Welcome to our podcast, mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and link, and now we invite you to enjoy the show. Okay, so last week we were talking about the dimensions and consciousness, paradigms, heavens, that kind of thing. This week we were going to shift our focus. I'm going to let you go ahead and say where you think the next logical conversation step is.

Kathie Malby:

When we were talking last week, we covered a whole bunch of stuff with regard to the healing work of Reiki, and William Rand broke down several areas that we need healing for in our lives, and I believe I listed out five of the areas in his Master Level Manual for Holy Fire III, and it was on page 45 that he says the Holy Fire energy is noticeably more refined and comes from a higher level of consciousness, and this dimension is in the formless realm and I looked that up for his definition too, because I wanted to follow his thought as we talk about this. And this formless realm is beyond all of the other levels that are listed there, and there was 12. In Buddhism, I believe, there are many more. I don't understand that because I don't come from that faith tradition but there's many, many levels. I saw some place where it was like 33. And I don't know if those are divided up into categories or quite how that worked.

Blaire Stanislao:

I think they are, but I personally feel the same way about the numbers that you're talking about, as we have talked many times over about energy, like it's very hard to nail down, so to me the translation is it's a lot.

Kathie Malby:

And then there comes this place where he talks about the ascended masters, the brothers and sisters of light, those who are helpers. They moved from that realm, some of them, into that second dimension, in order to help those of us here to do the work of Reiki, to do that energy work or other forms of energy work. And I don't begin to know all of those, but I know that everything is energy and so whatever we involve ourselves in as far as healing goes, it's going to be working with energy, not necessarily Reiki energy. But this formless realm is where these ascended masters or brothers and sisters of the light are. Some of them move in there to be the helpers. They also help at that level of those who have crossed over and maybe are stuck but want to move on, and they also help them move on to get to where they need to go. But in that formless realm of consciousness it says that everything originated there. So I think we're talking about the prime, moving the origins, the Godhead, if you will, and I think that was the main thing that I got from that holy fire. Energy is more refined because it comes from that highest level.

Kathie Malby:

William Rand received that information through a couple of people that have been his spiritual guides here on Earth and they've channeled different messages for him and that's where he's. Some of that has come from. But one of the things that it said on that page 40, 45, it has several different things listed for the experience of holy fire, but it says one of the most wonderful effects is a spiritual guide. The most wonderful effects is a feeling of being loved. I know this for myself and I've been in this healing work for 50 years. The longer that I work in Reiki and the longer I work with other people who seek that form of healing, the more I know I'm loved. It isn't like saying I think I'm loved or I think sometimes I'm loved, or it's a loving feeling I have. It has nothing to do with my feelings. It has to do with an awareness of who I say I am and I am love.

Blaire Stanislao:

And it's like love, meaning you are love. Yeah, yeah, it's come. That love feeling that you're getting, or the love I understand it to be the love vibration is you, it's your higher version, yeah.

Kathie Malby:

Yeah, and that doesn't mean that I don't have other issues or things that I need to work on or that kind of thing, but there's somewhere inside of me a change took place and that change is an awareness that I am love and that is what I will give. That is what the remainder of my time here on earth is all about. Is that love that heals, and it does, it always heals. It cannot do anything but be loyal to itself, which is heal. That love is what I understand is in me. I never grew up knowing that. I never had that in me, grew up in an abusive home, home life and a great big family who understands that.

Kathie Malby:

We had that going on in our home, but you don't feel loved and so if you don't feel loved, you don't know how to give love. So what do I do? I grow up and I take that into a marriage. Well, that's not good. You do your best with it and you know I love my children and I did what I could do, but pretty harsh as a personality and as a parent, and kept searching and searching and searching and looked in many secret places and hoped in lots of corners to find this and it has come about just kind of like simply, it's just one day it was there, one day it was just there and that's only been probably the awareness of it. It's probably only been in the last year, year and a half.

Blaire Stanislao:

Oh, wow.

Kathie Malby:

Yeah, because you know, when you don't feel good about who you are and it no matter how much you deal with low self-esteem or issues that you have around, how you look or how you feel or decisions you make or things other people say to you but they don't realize they're saying something that really hurts I would take exception to that and I know now, not to. I know it's okay, it's not where my energy is anymore.

Blaire Stanislao:

That's really interesting because I had a very different experience. I did go to church when I was young, but I didn't. We didn't go. Well, for lack of a better term, we didn't go religiously, but we did go when I was young, like before 11. But then my father died and my mother quit going. She liked the she. He was a Episcopalian, so she liked that better. But it was very involved. Better get dressed up. She had three daughters. She had no help. You know, if you've had sisters, you know that can be really rough, but I hated them.

Blaire Stanislao:

And so I had no opinion, I didn't really care. I mean, for me I was like, good, I don't wear a penny house, I don't have to wear a dress, you know, I don't have to sit still, you know. But there's no judgment about going or not going or whatever. And where I grew up, most people had a religion and most people were really involved in it, and I would have friends that would say we would play, try to plan, you know, can we hang out this weekend or whatever, can I spend the night?

Blaire Stanislao:

And I had one particular friend who was Catholic and she said, yes, you can come over, but if you come over, then we have to go to church. And I was like, ok, that's fine, we'll go to church. So I didn't have a lot of the stigma, I didn't have the you know, the perfect upbringing, but I didn't have what I would call an abusive situation, certainly not after my father died. And so it was interesting to go through different, with my different friends, their experiences of what spirituality was. I didn't know what it was called then, right, but we were talking about Right right.

Kathie Malby:

Those weren't, those were not our words, right.

Blaire Stanislao:

But we would all go to, like they would all be at different kinds of churches. I mean, when I was young I thought all the different kinds of Christian churches were different kinds of churches. Right, Well they are. They are.

Blaire Stanislao:

But, they're a different religion. No, no, anyhow. I found it really interesting because what I could do is I could see the common thread that went through all of them. Then, as I got into high school, I did have people who were friends, that were of a completely different religion and the same thing. You could still see that thread.

Blaire Stanislao:

And what I eventually figured out for myself was I had grasped the idea of what God is Right. I knew that they called it God, I knew that some people had it as a white man with brown hair in the pictures and other people had it as a black man, and then my Indian friend would have it as an elephant or an elephant human or something you know just. And so it was like different. And of course, even at a young age, I'd recognize that and realize OK, so that's the vehicle through which they see this energy. But that's what I understood it to be was the energy. But I'll say, even in just the last couple of years, I've had a similar experience to you. It was during a meditation and it was really. It was awareness brought to the fact that I was this energy that was coming to me. It felt like one of these helpers. It was me and no one certain terms. It was me, which of course corresponds with the other things that were going on as I was learning.

Blaire Stanislao:

But it is a very different experience to get. Ok, it's not like you're right, it's not just a feeling, it's almost like a knowing. Wayne Dyer yeah, wayne Dyer calls a knowing very different from a belief. Yeah, if we were talking about a physical thing, I would say it's almost like all the way through all of your cells and all of your. What do they call that? Empty space? You know, the empty space between the particles. It's an awareness in those spaces, all of them, which is not a mental thought, it's not a sentence, it's not, you know.

Blaire Stanislao:

I know that XYZ loves me, but, yeah, it's a very, very different experience and I would call that, at least on some level, a degree of awakening. You know it's not involving which, it would be a conversion. Oh, okay, yeah, yes, okay. So maybe that's what I always struggled with the whole idea of being saved. Because I was watching this from the outside and I listened again to some of my friends who had a different experience. It was mostly Baptist and they would say, you know, they were so worried about whether I was saved or not.

Kathie Malby:

And I was like to be honest, all this is like a fairly more extreme, Sincerely worried about you. Yeah, oh yes, yeah, I. Just those who are worried about me because there are, I just tell them we'll just keep praying, it's okay, I won't turn that down.

Blaire Stanislao:

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I had a hard time putting some of the parts together in the 3D world, so that part was it was hard for me to really process and understand.

Kathie Malby:

Yeah, and it's interesting because I always grew up with all the language and the definitions behind the language and intellectually understood what it was that I had been given out through my life and I had had personal experiences that I knew better than to talk about them, because that's in that crazy world, right, and that's supposed to be a little kid and hear things and that's you know.

Kathie Malby:

That's where they tell you you can't think like that, you don't dare. But I did and I just remember different points along the way and they're very clear of awakening, of being totally aware of the moment, and I have no idea why it would be at those moments, what those things were that created that opportunity. And I knew the language of love and I believed it and I believed it. It is the hallmark of all healing. I think when you have a doctor who loves what they do and believes in what they do, and they take care of you, they give that intention of love to you, whether it's through a diagnosis or just spending time with you or prescribing medication, there's something in there need to be a doctor or a nurse or some kind of practitioner. That is about love. It's about loving humanity and about wanting to bring wholeness for that person.

Blaire Stanislao:

Well it's something that's coming up for me that, as you describe, that is a trait that is not there for all doctors or nurses or I mean it's probably there for more nurses than doctors but that, I notice, is a requirement for doing energy healing. And the requirement for manifestation is a complete and total belief that the energy that the person is that they're helping is actually already healed. But they're at a point when they're in this 3D world and they're conversing about this dis-ease, they realize that they're either not in alignment or something's just a little bit off. But that's not really who they are. They are this whole incomplete being that is completely healed.

Blaire Stanislao:

And I think it's that energy that you're talking about, it's that love energy that knows that that's the outcome and then that's almost guaranteed that it's going to happen.

Kathie Malby:

You know, I'll come back to the fact that I send Reiki every night and I added up one time how many people I'm sending it to every night. It's 100, and some people by name and I. That love that goes forth doesn't need to go every day. It can go once because it's eternal, it exists, there's no having to repeat it, but we live in a world of time and so, because of time, there's a need to do that. I need to do that so I don't forget, and I need to do that because I do love and I want that going and I delight in the thinking of what it must look like on the other side. I'm sure it looks like light, but it's got to be like the Aurora Borealis kind of thing, and so I just figure I'm adding to it for color, but the need for people to be healed, I don't. I send it and they want it and they say so, but I'm not always sure they receive it.

Kathie Malby:

We have all sorts of blocks and hindrances in our personalities, in our oras, in our chakra system, in our organs, in our inheritances, in whatever we've brought with us, and those limitations will block the healing that we're seeking, because we don't stop living the present tense and say it is already, is it belongs to me? That's my healing. We don't do that. We keep looking, we keep searching, we keep poking around in those, those places trying to find it. If we just stop and let it come to us, it'll heal it. We will feel the healing.

Blaire Stanislao:

We know that it's there. So that same principle like you think, stop and no.

Kathie Malby:

Yeah, stop and go, there you go. That'd be kind of a theme Stop and no instead of stop and go, yeah. And the other thing is and I just want to bring it up briefly is this thing on spirit attachments that William Rand has in in that, that master level text and it's on page 28, 29 and 30, I think yes, and on how to do it? I did a training, I didn't do. It wasn't a training, it's a class. I offer these classes after a training for whatever my students want. There's things I just don't cover. There's two. This, this is a whole ritual, and ritual takes time and when you're being bombarded with information for the first time about healing, it's like how do you have all that and try and process it and do the and do this work? It takes some maturing in in your understanding of your, your walk with Reiki Healing.

Kathie Malby:

The spirit attachments is an is working with paradigms a person has about what that means. I liked some of the things that he had to say because he said it's a powerful and compassionate Reiki technique, this particular thing that he has written, and it releases spirits of all types into the authority of love and forgiveness. How beautiful. Because bottom line is when, that when that spirit or spirits are surrounded with love and and forgiveness, they can't cause any harm. The other thing is it isn't coming from the person themselves or the practitioner who's holding the energy there for that to be released. It's not coming from there, it's coming from that highest realm and when it does, then the, the spirit, has no other choice than to go and to be healed itself If it's willing to be healed. But it has to go, it can't stay, it's not, it's not supposed to be there anymore. And I went through and I looked at some of the ones that he mentioned and he said that not all spirit attachments have malicious, malicious intent and there's a, an understanding. I would say in Christianity that would say that they all have harmful intent.

Kathie Malby:

But I do know from healing work years and years ago that's not true he talks about some of them have crossed over and they're just confused that they haven't. Maybe it happened really fast, maybe they weren't ready. I felt that from my grandson. You know he wasn't, he couldn't figure out why he couldn't hang around with me, you know. But I, you know, you're not here anymore, you're over there and that's where you need to be and you need to figure it out. I can't do that for you, but they call him discarnate spirits.

Kathie Malby:

And then there's also spirits that believe they're helping the person and they really are kind of meddling and interfering, and then there's the spirit that'll help a child or a person in crisis, and then they just don't leave Because they like being there, they like that energy, and that's what it is all about. It's about the energy that I have, or you have, or somebody else has, and that spirit or spirits likes that energy and wants to find a home there, and that isn't where they belong, and so that sending them to the light and the forgiveness and the love is the thing that will heal them. That's what they're looking for. That's what we're meeting and wanting.

Blaire Stanislao:

I'm going to ask you a question that I know I have. We have had this conversation before but you know kind of dense sometimes, Okay, so what it sounds like you're describing here, and you have to keep in mind my background, where I, of course, been around a lot of Christians and heard things like, you know, angels and demons, and then you know I watch movies or whatever. So I have a concept of what people seem to think these things are.

Kathie Malby:

Yeah.

Blaire Stanislao:

You described it one to. The first time I met you, you described it in a way that finally, like, really made sense to me. Part of what I had difficulty with was that I was not raised in a home where words like angels and demons would be used on a regular basis, so it wasn't common language. So it was like all the other terms. It was like, oh, now I have to learn what this means. And and there was no like attachment to it, like, okay, this is what it means to you. I don't know if that's what it means, but whatever and I've heard, I've heard different spiritual I would call them leaders. I don't remember Bashar said this, but I know that Abraham Hicks and do you know who that is?

Kathie Malby:

She's a.

Blaire Stanislao:

So she, somebody asked somewhere in her myriad of recordings something about these spirit attachments or something to that effect, demons or something like that, right, yeah, but it's. Her answer was very similar to what I thought the answer was also for, you know, do we need supplements or do we need medicine? Or you know, like physical medicine, that we western medicine, right? And the answer essentially was if you think you do, you do. And essentially it.

Blaire Stanislao:

To me what you're saying sounds similar to that, but not completely. I hear you giving a little more credence, maybe, to the fact that there is a completely separate, but a but a separate in a way a separate energy to these spirits, or whatever you want to call them, definitely York's. So how, how would you describe for someone who's like me and doesn't have the language or experience to know what that is, how would you describe what it seems like? Or how does it happen where you can recognize these entities or these spirits that are not in the right place, that you want to be able to heal and release, or how would you describe those things?

Kathie Malby:

I would say, first of all, if you have thoughts or certain constructs that come that you know don't belong to you, you know that that isn't how you think or feel, then another personality may very well be influencing us and it might be just that this is a construct that has been let loose out there from some other human or some other type of being that's been created. We don't know. People claim they know, but we don't know. We don't begin to know on the other side, what all magnificence and terror there could be. We don't know, we just think we do. We have this little bit of knowledge, and and then there are people who do channel certain things and get certain pieces of information and sometimes it just terrifies the, the people now to people, because it's it's not something they're comfortable with.

Kathie Malby:

Well, I'm not either. I don't want that negativity around me, but when it is around me I can be pretty sure somebody, another personality is pushing. I can either to to ride on my own energy and to influence me, or let me know they they have these wonderful thoughts that I should embrace. Then they can be very helpful to me. You know, we all have this pride that can get out of hand and that kind of manipulation that can take place. It doesn't take us very long to realize that was really stupid on my part If we are aware of our arrogance. Yes, those who are not aware of their arrogance, they almost have to have a two by four alongside the head Because it's just not. It's just not real. And that's the other thing that sometimes will say something in the thing I want where that came from. That doesn't. It doesn't ring right and go back to the drawing board and maybe it's okay.

Blaire Stanislao:

But then again, maybe when we're being pestered by something, we need to say you need to go, you need to leave, you don't belong to me, which is really very similar to the process that we wind up doing when we're doing healing yeah, there be right here, but you're just doesn't matter if it's an entity or not, but it's an energy. It doesn't fit.

Kathie Malby:

And I think we tend to think that all of these are a creature, creation, creature, when in fact it can be simply thought. It's energy and it's been there for for all of eternity. Once something's been thought, once something's been said, once something's been done, the energy exists and there's no taking it back.

Blaire Stanislao:

That's where that transmuting makes a huge difference, where you take it Essentially. To me it seems like you love it right? You give it creation energy and then allow it to transmute into something else.

Kathie Malby:

Yeah, and so it's important to send that to to the God of our understanding that that thought or that energy, that it doesn't belong to me and I don't want it. I want mine and I don't want mine stolen from me. I had it stolen for a long time through the cigarettes, but I don't have that anymore and I don't want that there, and so I think it's really important that we send that to the light and the love for forgiveness and for healing. Being kind is always right.

Blaire Stanislao:

Right, and that was something I always felt like I, because I actually went to a religious school when I was young, like kindergarten through second grade, I think, did you? Yeah, and I'm sure that a lot of the see, I think that foundation was there. Yeah, you know whether you know we had to go to chapel and I didn't know what I was doing, but whatever we do, but that's what we didn't get anybody else.

Blaire Stanislao:

What I was learning was how to interact with the other kids and what was appropriate, and their driving force was about love and it was always to be kind and I knew that that was right. So it resonated with me, even as a child. Yeah, yeah, I think the first time that we started talking because this is something I remember very clearly I had just taken the reiki course and I had a friend from high school who I had connected with relatively recently in the last couple of years when I took the reiki course, and he was kind of all into that stuff and so he was, you know, supportive and all that, and so I wanted to practice on somebody and of course he volunteered and he lived far away. So we were just going to do it remotely and we weren't even going to get on the phone. We just agreed hey, we'll do it at this time, I'll send it to you at that time and I can remember doing it and I was new to it, but I remember going through it and I remember sensing exactly what you're talking about and it wasn't necessarily some of it.

Blaire Stanislao:

I think there were some thoughts that came in that really did not feel like me, like they were not alignment and then it was a. It was also just a weird, honestly, like a cringy feeling, like it kind of felt like it was I don't know, I don't know how to describe it Kind of felt cringy, like you look at something and either you get embarrassed or you hurt or something like that, and you're like, oh, get away from that. That's all I could think of, and I think that's the same kind of description you gave when I talked to you about this a long time ago.

Kathie Malby:

Well, and I think that it's people said well, how would I know? How would I know? You know, this is all of a sudden. It's important to know. I just think it just stopped. Pay attention, you'll know. You just do, don't make it complicated, Don't think it, just feel it and you'll know. Is this me or isn't it? You know, when that cancer showed up and I had a conversation with it, holding it in my hand, and I said you know, I want to put you in the earth Because you belong there. But is that okay? Because I didn't know if maybe I needed to do something else with it and it just said well, I belong to the earth and whatever you decide will be fine. It really didn't have any decisions to make. It was left to me and knowing that was made it easy, I went buried it.

Blaire Stanislao:

Well, it's beautiful that you got the idea of the words back when you asked the question. I mean, I think we all technically get that. Whether we are, how in tune we are with that, I think is different for everybody. Yeah, I think if we ask the question and we pay attention to what that answer is right away, that is, I mean, that's your intuition, right, but that's well, it is and it's in my imagination, but that doesn't mean it's not real.

Kathie Malby:

And it's also a place where this particular thing was, had been a part of me and needed respect. It had been a part of me, it was growing in me. Now my body went ooh, what do you? You know I've done all I can do. Now it's up to you. But me, me, I I needed to be able to take care of that and it had to be respectful, because I respect me Right, I haven't always, but in this case, yes, and it doesn't matter what that is.

Blaire Stanislao:

That respect needs to be there and I you know I'm heavy on that word- you know, I, I, you use the word imagine just now and that triggers for me a couple of things. So I do hypnosis and sometimes when people have a little bit of hesitancy about being able to talk about these kinds of things or their visions or their non whatever, and they have difficulty with total relaxation and just experiencing whatever they experience and communicating about that, they'll use different words. And it was actually the first male that I had worked on, so it was a very different energy rate and it was really interesting because when he would describe what, I would ask him questions and when he would describe, he would use the word I imagine, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, and he didn't have any problems seeing what he saw, but he wanted to use that word imagine.

Blaire Stanislao:

And over the years I have really recognized that again, it's one of these words, that it's just a term that we use to describe the experience. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you imagine it, if you think that it's your mind creating that thing, but really creative people know that they don't get ideas from nothing. No, they don't make their own ideas. They open up and the ideas come in.

Kathie Malby:

They start to flow.

Blaire Stanislao:

Yeah, they start to flow. It's an allowing and so I think that's and I had somebody a trainer or something somewhere was like okay, you imagine, that's fine, that's where it comes from. And the last one that was kind of skeptical here and he didn't have any problem Actually they're related to those two. He didn't have any problem going under, he could see everything. But when we got to the deeper part, when we were asking the real questions that he wanted the answers to, he kind of cleaned up a little bit. So I kept asking the questions. So, anyways, we go through the whole process and most of his questions are answered. I think actually all of them. Actually I know that all of them were. But we talked about him before he comes out of it and he says you know, you kept asking those questions and I'd get the answer right away. But then I was thinking, well, did I make that up? Is that me? I'm filtering it. And I said, well, how else is it going to come through? What else is it going to happen? Words Exactly.

Blaire Stanislao:

Yeah, I was actually talking to my son because he and I have this I like to call it a disease because it's the only term that I find that actually it's not a real disease but only term, that I find that's accurate. So I have this difficulty keeping track of things and we're talking about like normal things. So when I was a child, multiple people all across the board would eventually say to me at some point if your head wasn't attached, you'd lose it too. My son is similar to this. He doesn't lose the same kind of thing, but he's kind of like that about other things and I was kind of talking to him about it and he was asking me about that. And it's kind of interesting because, you know, some people have predispositions to already be thinking about spiritual things, like they're just able to do that naturally. It's not a judgment here or there, it just is the fact.

Blaire Stanislao:

You can see this astrologically and he and I have something in our charts that is kind of like the opposite for each other. I have son in the 12th, he has moon in the 12th. I have moon in the eighth, he has son in the eighth. As I was trying to describe this for him, I said, yes, I have the same condition you have, it's just different stuff.

Blaire Stanislao:

And he was asking me about it and I was like, well, the thing is that, if your mind is so in this, what I'm going to say imagination world. Okay, you're in this space of creation, yeah, you get so lost in there. Time disappears, Physical objects disappear, and that's really what has. So that's what I feel like our condition, our disease is. I mean, it's nothing I can do about it, we're just like that, it's just the way it is, and it's something I battle with all the time, because I'm here and most people expect you to be able to show up on time or not lose your cookies or you know all the normal things. But it's a benefit, because it does make this stuff easier to grasp.

Kathie Malby:

Well, and I think there are some very, very intellectual, logical people who struggle with the word imagination, putting it in the world of unreality. I remember when I was a little girl and I played with my sisters. I had four younger sisters and I also had nieces and nephews and I was in charge of the yard. It's where I learned everything about leadership you ever wanted to know, and then things you didn't want to know, especially about people, those people. Anyway, I remember we played and how real the play was.

Blaire Stanislao:

Oh yeah.

Kathie Malby:

You know I usually would we would agree on who had what part and the play. And in the playing I mean, if we were playing doctor, who was the nurse, who was the doctor, you get the doctor kit. If we were playing house, then we had the sleds, put the babies on for beds and you know we had all this kind of stuff. So it was very real to us and we all entered into it and we'd tell each other what they had to say and stuff. And I was, we had moved and I think I was going into the sixth grade or something and my little sisters were playing outside at this second place where we lived in La Crosse and I went to play with them and I couldn't enter. I couldn't enter the imagination. It was over, that time had passed me and I didn't know when it did that. I was really disappointed.

Blaire Stanislao:

You know, scientifically, they described that essentially as usually about age seven, but that's also the part where you were talking about it being so real. That's also the part that is the same belief that we're talking about with the doctors, where you know your healers know that you are whole and complete before you, right, yes and no. That's what you do. Yeah, yeah, but that's what manifestation is. You have to have that part.

Kathie Malby:

Yes, yes, and that there's something that's the imagination, is some kind of gateway or portal for the relationship between the body and the divine, the physical and the divine, somehow. But it is harder for strong intellectuals that don't perceive spirituality in the same way in the feelings.

Blaire Stanislao:

Well, I would say, for people who have their head in this world, really, if they're, if they're mind or there, you know, there's parts of them that are completely engrossed and it's almost like being in a relationship. It's funny because it's almost the same thing. It's almost like being in a relationship or a situation where You're so consumed with whatever's happening it feels like this is the only thing that's happening, which is what you were just describing as children, right?

Blaire Stanislao:

Yeah, absolutely so it's like you enter, once you reach the stage where you're not able to go into the pretend play or your imagination. Imagination, for it's almost like you have totally submerged yourself into this 3D life and this is your imagination, this is your role that you're playing. It's not until you are able to distance yourself from it that you can start to say oh, that's my role.

Kathie Malby:

Yeah.

Blaire Stanislao:

I don't have to. That's not really who I am.

Kathie Malby:

No.

Blaire Stanislao:

Yeah.

Kathie Malby:

No, no, it's not, it's kind of cool.

Blaire Stanislao:

It is.

Kathie Malby:

I think that that whole message in these healing the spirit, attachments anytime we're working with that, with other people, it's important that we call on the help from the brothers and sisters of light and whoever your spirit guide is or whoever that your protector is. I have several and I can see why I have them and I can see their purpose in the work that I do and I'm always just kind of surprised they just show up. I don't have to like sitting and meditate on it, they're there and it's because they know I need them and I need them now. And when I was growing through that whole thing with cancer last year, I had two of them. They just kept showing up.

Kathie Malby:

One is a tiger that's huge. He's not my friend and he is male and he is a bangle tiger and he is wild and his whole purpose is protection period. He keeps anything or anyone away from me that should not be there, should not. And I don't always have good sense to know that, because I like people and I've been pushed in a direction. But I want to go over there. No, you will not go there, and oh, ok, then I pay attention because I'm a two by four person. It's best to whack me once in a while.

Kathie Malby:

And then I have this angel. That he another male, I suppose it's partly because I'm an Aries, but he is a scream, he's a nervous thing, he's very anxious, he's very protective of me but he has no sense of humor and makes me laugh uproariously because he looks kind of like a, like one of those little wee people you hear about in Irish countryside, you know the little leprechaun looking guy and he's all pointy, he's got pointy nose and his cap is even kind of pointy and he's little and he just goes and you can keep up, you can keep up. Now you get over here and I will say, well, that looks like that isn't what I said. All right, he's a scream, absolute scream, and he's been with me all of my life, all of my life.

Blaire Stanislao:

It's interesting to see how people react differently to kind of the things that you're talking about. And you know, I really enjoyed my experience with my daughter because I never really told her that I recall If I did it was an accident, never really told her whatever imagination she had going on in her head that it was wrong and stopped doing that. I was like why are you doing X, y, z or something like that? And she would tell me this fantastical reason, right, like what it's magical.

Blaire Stanislao:

And I'd be like OK, well, I'll play along.

Kathie Malby:

That sounds good, I'll go there too.

Blaire Stanislao:

And it's really interesting because what you're talking about when you're getting your guides are helping you.

Blaire Stanislao:

They're either encouraging you to go forward to a different direction or they're saying, no, don't go that way. The experience that I've had with her is that if we're in the same space and we're experiencing other people or situations that are similar to what I think the outcome is for what you were describing, which is we don't need to go there. It's not an alignment, it's not a good fit, it's not going to be good for us. Both of us will have a response and usually she will turn to me, even at 14, 15,. She turns to me and almost like we just kind of I kind of know the kind of stuff that she's going to about to say, but essentially it's the same idea that I don't like this thing because blah, blah, blah and we've. You know she's gotten to the stage where she can articulate what it is. She doesn't know about it, but I don't know that it even really matters. Like, does it really matter why you don't like it? If you're getting the sense that that's not the thing that's for you, then that's all that matters.

Kathie Malby:

Except that maybe she needs to sort through the reasons.

Blaire Stanislao:

Maybe Maybe I don't want to talk. It's not that I don't let her talk, but I'm just kind of wondering if you know, the conversations we have about energy. Is that's and I mean that's a natural evolution for her right To put it into language, and she loves language?

Kathie Malby:

And some people need a lot more words than others. You know, when I ask people in the treatment room okay, what do you have an intention for today? You know, what would you like to have happen? Some people oh man, it takes 15 minutes. I always allow a half an hour before and a half an hour after just in case.

Kathie Malby:

And then others would say no, I just want to feel better, All right, I don't need to know. But sometimes they need to articulate and I don't need to know, because Reiki is going to do all the work anyway.

Blaire Stanislao:

Right Yep.

Kathie Malby:

And it will go there. It will go where it's needed, and it might not be where somebody who got a lot of words would like it to go. That's all I know.

Blaire Stanislao:

The phrase that you know it does no harm, which I 100% believe. No doubt I was telling you something one time. We were talking about this person who we there was actually three of us giving her Reiki and she had an injury and I had. We asked her what it was like when we got done and she said, actually it kind of hurt a little bit. And I said, oh, you know, that's that's actually pretty good, because what that means is you're sensing an energy, but it's not.

Blaire Stanislao:

I would say that I think my experience of it so far is that she described it as hurt. Actually, when I was at the career Reiki class with you OK, the second time I got on the table, I finally was able to put into words which I was starting to do prior to. But finally I'm completely confident now that there are feelings, whether it's in the body or thoughts or whatever you want to call it. There are feelings that I have sensed my entire life that I didn't have the appropriate words for Some of some of the time pain is the right word, or some of the. You know there are words that are sometimes appropriate for it, but really what it is is it's simply sensing energy, it's sensing the shift.

Kathie Malby:

I want to hang on to it this time. That's a that is really accurate.

Blaire Stanislao:

Yeah, and so the way I described it to her was that's good. That means you're sensing the energy she didn't convey, she didn't, like you know, wail out in pain or anything like that. She was totally fine, she was totally capable of explaining it to us. But I would have described my foot injury that I had when I first got Reiki on that and I was so familiar with that pain that when she did the Reiki and it went in the exact spot that I knew, oh yeah, I know what that is, I know where it is, I know what part of my body is, and because I think I was sensing the healing right, like as it was going back to healing and also when it hurt.

Kathie Malby:

Yeah, dealing with that trauma.

Blaire Stanislao:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think it's always, you know, to say something hurts is, I think sometimes we're just, we're not experienced enough to know that it's not necessarily hurt. If you genuinely ask yourself, now, of course, if you're, you know, you can't think about anything, but that probably is pain, absolutely.

Kathie Malby:

Yeah, we know that. We know pain is pain, but sometimes we put that word because we don't have a bigger vocabulary for all those things. Yeah, that's true. I don't think there's much more to cover on that whole thing. On healing attachments, I think bears repeating, though, with people whenever we talk about forgiveness. I'm going to be doing a retreat in December and it's going to be on forgiveness. I've entitled it Following the Star because it'll lead up. It's a retreat that'll lead up to Christmas, but the it's.

Kathie Malby:

I'm taking that whole mindfulness of Tick-Mot Tick-Not Han, and he's going to be doing a retreat in December.

Kathie Malby:

So mindfulness of Tick-Mot Tick-Not Han, and he has this mantra of may you be happy, may you be blessed, may you, you know no, peace and kindness, peace and love, anyway.

Kathie Malby:

But you go through that and the first person that you you think on when you, before you speak, that is a person who loves you and you think highly of, and then you think on them, get a really good image of them, and you then say that little mantra and I'll have all the people in the room say it.

Kathie Malby:

I mean, they don't, they can say the mantra together. They don't have to say anything about who they, who they're talking about, and then I don't know if it's a second or third one you need to think on somebody you don't like, who doesn't like you, has probably crossed you, hasn't been nice to you or you haven't been nice to them and you just flat out don't like them. In fact, maybe it comes down to I hate them, I hate their guts, you know. And then we get to say may you be happy, may you be, you know. So I'm going to use that within the talk for for the people there, because I think that it's really important to understand that forgiveness isn't about the person themselves or about what they've done. Forgiveness is about releasing my heart for the love and the kindness and the goodness that I have to continue to manifest.

Blaire Stanislao:

I think we could touch briefly before we end this on, you know, part two there, where he's talking about healing the part that allowed the spirit to attach. Well, all right, because that's another thing I see consistently with all the different modalities of healing, is it? I mean, there's several things, but this is one of them where, if you're pulling something out or you're releasing a particular energy, that void that now does not have that energy that was there needs to be readdressed. So you kind of plant the seed of healing back in there, right?

Kathie Malby:

Yes, Actually, in the ritual itself, you go through the whole ritual. That is on page 29,. You go through the whole ritual ritual and address all of that and and take that spirit out. And before I do the part two of that, which is the healing piece, I always ask the person is it gone? Is it gone? And one gal said, there's still something farther down. All right, let's, let's continue. And so we did until it was gone. And then you go back in and you fill that with the love and the peace and all the goodness that can ever happen, so that that is filled up.

Kathie Malby:

It's sewed back together. You know, because it's in the aura. There may be a hole. That's that it's come through. It needs to be sewed up so that the healing is complete. It isn't just leaving a hole there, because if we leave a hole then it leaves an opportunity for that entity that construct, that idea, that being, to return or even bring friends or one of their friends can come. I mean it leaves us open and vulnerable. We have to close that. It has to be closed, yeah.

Blaire Stanislao:

And it's, it's.

Blaire Stanislao:

I think it's great that you ask them, because when somebody has done healing whether it be on themselves or they're getting healed or what have you, and energetically it is completely healed. What happens is it's been my experience that all the energy that went towards that misalignment completely stops. Like, you don't think about it, you don't feel it, you don't remember it I mean it's not that you totally forgotten it, but it's not something that you dwell on, right. Right, she's prior to. That's what it was, and noticing that that shift has been made when you're doing these healing processes is, I think it's really critical because if they're aware that there's a part here that still needs to be worked on and number one, that means they can sense the energy, but number two, that it does still need to be worked on, it still needs to be loved so that it does heal and it does release or whatever it needs to do, yeah, yeah.

Kathie Malby:

And and sometimes it's just a matter of the last piece it has to go Right, well, I think it's a good question.

Kathie Malby:

Well, you know, are you sure? Are you really sure? Because I can hang around a day or two longer. Yeah, you know, please, please, please, please. I mean that's where it's very manipulative and needy, yeah, but sometimes it's just the rest of the trauma. Is something happened to cause it in the first place? And then maybe that that healing, that final piece is, is that little seed that was there to allow that to happen over time?

Blaire Stanislao:

Yeah, yeah.

Kathie Malby:

I don't think we necessarily are affected or infected or affected by any of it All at once. I think it's a gradual thing, yeah, and permission is granted little bit by little bit to to be in us. I mean, there's a reason why we do it and we have to be kind to ourselves in the first place, or allow it in the first place, and so we have to be kind to ourselves and we have to be kind to it so that so everything is healed.

Blaire Stanislao:

That whole gets filled. That kind to it part is really interesting to me too, because you you're talking about respect even for your cancer, right?

Blaire Stanislao:

Yeah, that's really interesting, because I think that's one of the things, that it's an indication not only do you not think about it, when you are able to turn around and essentially think we're talking about what you were talking earlier, about people that you maybe even hate, right, oh yeah, a lot of disdain for them when you can shift that feeling to appreciation and respect and love, then you've really done that healing right and you don't have to think about it or even push them away. It's not a. You don't have that energy, it's not there, right.

Kathie Malby:

And it's funny how that works, because at least within me. I don't know about other people, but within me, when that's complete, I really have just non feeling. Yes, yes, it's just done, it's just over, you know, when Michael said to me and he said you know, nanny, you pray for everybody else, but you don't pray for my family, how come? And he said it just like I would say it and I just said well, busted, you're right, I don't. But I start now and I haven't missed. And what's happened over that is that I don't feel about his wife and family one way or the other. I just, I just honor that prayer. You know, send them that healing that they need.

Blaire Stanislao:

They need it.

Kathie Malby:

And it, it's so important it and it's free in here. Yeah, yeah, I don't have any need to go visit. I don't have any need to throw my arms around them and kiss them and and tell them oh, I'm so sorry, I thought this and that. No, I don't. Help me. Have that out why it's over.

Blaire Stanislao:

Thanks for listening to this episode of mystical and infamous podcast with the Happy Lion Center. Send requests for topic discussions, questions and comments to podcast at happy lion centercom. That's podcast at happy lion centercom.

Exploring Dimensions, Healing, and Love
Spirit Attachments and Power of Love
Recognizing and Dealing With Negative Entities
Exploring Imagination and Spiritual Connection
Understanding Spirituality and Energy Sensing
Healing, Forgiveness, and Releasing Trauma